Language of the Pins:

[Aslan]

but you have to admit its a bit hilarious that some posters here, when seeing something from a pro intended to help beginners grow that they may not agree with or understand don't say to themselves "not for me"

I agree. Kinda like when someone can't stand a certain person on a forum and disagrees with everything (including their very existence) yet MUST comment with a snarky response EVERY time that person posts.

I think some people, and I'll admit being guilty of it as well from time to time, just don't have that ability to pass by a thread they disagree with or a person they disagree with and say to themselves, "Oh well. To each their own." Maybe that would be a good New Year's resolution or something.

[J Anderson]

Ya I get cheeky sometimes I know, but you have to admit its a bit hilarious that some posters here, when seeing something from a pro intended to help beginners grow that they may not agree with or understand don't say to themselves "not for me" or "I don't understand that, can someone explain how it's relevant?" But instead, argue that the people who are consistently scoring better than them and have more experience must be wrong. It's baffling.

What bothered me about the video was after making the ball change and fast forwarding through a bunch of strikes, he leaves a ten pin and gives the options of move left / move right / stay put. The correct answer turns out to be stay put and only then does he say that he missed the intended break point on the previous shot. Definitely a trick question in my book.

[dnhoffman]

Bunny tell your buddy he's on my IL

[Geneo2u]

I think doing this video at the Kegel bowling center and getting his stats on every shot would be helpful, yes i see he moved 2 boards but did the ball go down the lane 2 mile an hour faster, or some other difference.. its all subjective i suppose, but does make you think.

[swingset]

The amount of self-taught pro bowlers posting here never ceases to amaze.

Don't listen to the guy who made the video, everyone here is obviously a better bowler than Sk8... the Storm staffer....who also works in a pro shop and makes excellent videos on all sorts of bowling related topics. Blow it off, stay under 180 forever, with never a clue why.

What does it say that a bunch of us noticed a glaring flaw in his lesson? Even people on the youtube comments section noticed it?

We get his lesson, but it's put together poorly and represents a lost opportunity to teach that adjustments are subjective. He teaches as if HIS choices are then YOUR choices, and this is poor coaching. He makes good points, but they may not work for everyone and he fails to explain this or explain why.

I've been a coach in other sports for 30 years, and I know first hand that if you don't teach why/how from the player's perspective (and his game), you're not teaching correctly.

We're listening to the guy who made the video, but it doesn't make him right. You have to be right to be right, not just have some credentials.

[dnhoffman]

He's right.

[Perrin]

He's right.

On that pair, with that oil, with his specs, those balls, drilled with those layouts. yep what he showed worked.

and no question some of the things he is saying is 100% right (watching what the ball does and where it does it as far as path, breakpoint, and moving through the pindeck)

but as for the specific adjustments they may not work exactly the same for everyone. But they do make good baselines....

[swingset]

He's right.

About what? His adjustments that work for him? He sure is.

He made a fundamental error in logic in that lesson, and most of us can see it. He also over simplified adjustments which may be confusing or flat wrong for a different player in differing conditions, without communicating this. Most of us see that too.

Sorry if I'm impugning someone you're having a bromance with, but the man missed the bullseye on this lesson.

[tccstudent]

I think that those videos were interesting in that they put the viewer in the position to make choices and not just sit and watch. As far as over simplifying adjustments what do you expect from 1 min video segments.I think these videos are a good starting point to understanding different adjustments.

[Aslan]

Sorry if I'm impugning someone you're having a bromance with, but the man missed the bullseye on this lesson.

That word makes me laugh. Well played.