Two handed bowling

[sprocket]

Yeah it kind of looks like your slide foot need to be more out front with less knee bend at that point and also leaning more forward from the waist. From the position Jason is in he does get into more knee bend after that point and that is called knee continuation. As he finishes his approach his knee continues forward and his body catches up to it bringing him to a nice smooth stop. He doesn't have to lurch to a stop because his body still has someplace to go during the release, if that makes any sense.

Notice also what I said about Belmo coming off the side of his non-slide foot. I'm not so sure that isn't a bit of a flaw is his game. Obviously it works for him. I can imagine it tending to push him off line but apparently it doesn't. I'll bet if you found a still of Osku in that same position his foot wouldn't be like that.

[krash11554]

The thing im was thinking is that my timing is different then jasons. When his front foot is at the line he still has to finish the release vs me which i dont know how to explain but if you look at the pictures you can tell. Im not a 100% sure but i might start moving the ball earlier then jason. I start moving the ball after the first step vs jason he starts moving after the 2nd, well atleast i think he does. My main goal as of now is to bend down more. So if you have any suggestions please tell me.

[striker12]

1 thing i see you doing witch will mess up your ball reaction is you drop the ball on your release my brother is also a 2 handed bowler and he dropped the ball a lot and he never had a consistent hook on his ball because the ball was losing energy when he dropped the ball.

i spent a lot of time with my brother with videos of jason and you can see jason pushes the ball out at the bottom so it dose not drop on the lane it will land on the lane a bit past the foul line witch helps with the consistency in the hook i also asked jason this as well.

and my brother has been pushing the ball out more at the release and he has been getting alot better hook and more control. so if you work on a little more push out at the release you will be alot more control of the ball and you will start seeing some high games coming

[sprocket]

The reason Jason can push the ball at the bottom is because his swing plane during release is very flat. The ball is parallel to the floor for a long distance. His spine tilt and the position of his legs allows him to do that. You can't just want to push the ball and then it happens. It has to be the product of something else changing. Otherwise the sweet spot is just way too small and everything has to occur just perfect in order to get the ball onto the lane smoothly. Just a tiny little error and the ball will hit the lane hard.

*also* It appears that I was wrong about Jason's knee bend. He never really does get a whole lot of knee bend. Here's a link to the video I talked about earlier. It explains the two handed delivery better than I have. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egPrzCe4DSQ

[Aslan]

And Aslan is right out spare shooting particularly with right corner spares. The left side spares on a THS you should be able to figure out how to create as much area as possible using the dry boards and hooking the ball. For example if you get lined up correctly for the 7 pin you might be able to miss several boards at the arrows in either direction and still pick it up. The right corner spares are going to require you to be accurate and throw the ball pretty straight.

Thats what makes Osku and Belmonte so special and albe to do 2-handed at a high level. The advantage to that style, just like thumbless, is the rev rate and entry angle into the pocket. The disadvantage is…spare shooting and strange leaves. I've watched a lot of Belmo and bowled with and against some thumbless bowlers. The advantage is…when they are "on"…they're very difficult to beat. Disadvantage…when they don't strike. With that high rev angle…I've seen a lot of weird washout spares…where the ball gets too far down the lane before it starts to hook…misses the headpin and leaves something weird like 1-2-4-7-10.

Google "Wesley Low". He's a little closer to your age and has a very smooth delivery…and very successful.

[J Anderson]

Thats what makes Osku and Belmonte so special and albe to do 2-handed at a high level. The advantage to that style, just like thumbless, is the rev rate and entry angle into the pocket.

I think that Osku shoots corner pins one handed.

[Aslan]

I think that Osku shoots corner pins one handed.

He might. I honestly haven't watched much of him bowling. A little bit of Belmonte and I know Belmo shoots corner pins 2-handed.

[sprocket]

He might. I honestly haven't watched much of him bowling. A little bit of Belmonte and I know Belmo shoots corner pins 2-handed.

You don't know what you're missing. He throws his spares one handed about 100mph. I've never seen anyone throw the ball harder. I'm surprised he doesn't break pins.

[krash11554]

So if you guys can just i guess compile the things wrong into like a list if your ok with doing that. i think that would really help me beacasue i can just look off the list and try to fix the things wrong.
Thanks guys

[J Anderson]

So if you guys can just i guess compile the things wrong into like a list if your ok with doing that. i think that would really help me beacasue i can just look off the list and try to fix the things wrong.
Thanks guys

No no, that's your job to go through all the posted answers, figure out which of us were giving you constructive criticism and which of us were just making stuff up that sounds plausible, and write up your list of things to fix.

Remember to always write positive things to do. In other words don't write not enough spinal tilt. Instead write use more forward spinal tilt.