1st Annual Billy Hardwick Memorial ZDawg vs. Aslan Southern California Championship

[Mike White]

I think Mike may have misinterpreted the results posted. While I'm hoping we can still get the full video up for all to see….the official standings for the 1st Annual Billy Hardwick Memorial Southern California Invitational ARE:

1st: ASLAN: 532
2nd: ZDAWG: 522
3rd: MWHITE: 493

While Mr. White WAS able to defeat me scratch, this is a HANDICAP tournament per the agreed upon rules…thus MWHITE finished THIRD in the standings. Not sure how that affects the Burger King crown that Iceman made…but yes folks, Aslan pulled off a narrow victory.



I DO hope the video will be up shortly. The tournament actually came down to the LAST FRAME as ZDawg put up a strike in the 9th and 10th and had a chance if he closed out with a second strike in the 10th and then got 7 pins or more on that final ball.

Now, Mike was VERY impressive in games 2 and 3; but for him, he was kinda dead in the water after a real rough Game 1. I'm sure Rob would say (and I teased Mike about this on the video) that he "could" have pulled off the victory had he turned that string of 6 spares in Game 2 into strikes…had he "made that ball change". By the way, Mike responded that he DID make a LOT of adjustments…he was just struggling to figure out that challenging oil pattern…and I agree.

I thought I posted before that, the scores with handicap. I only listed the scratch scores in the post with pictures to define who is who in the images.

Guess I put in too many hours yesterday/this morning.

[bowl1820]

Using the posted score sheets-

Aslan: Series:454 average:151

Total Strikes: 9 of 36 possible
Strike Percentage: 25%

Total Spares: 10 of 22 possible
Spare Percentage: 45.45%

Total Opens: 12 of 30 Frames
Open Percentage: 40%


MWhite: Series:493 average:164

Total Strikes: 10 of 36 possible
Strike Percentage: 27.78%

Total Spares: 14 of 22 possible
Spare Percentage: 63.64%

Total Opens: 8 of 30 Frames
Open Percentage: 26.67%

zdawg: Series:372 average:124

Total Strikes: 5 of 36 possible
Strike Percentage: 13.89%

Total Spares: 9 of 27 possible
Spare Percentage: 33.33%

Total Opens: 17 of 30 Frames
Open Percentage: 56.67%

What if:
Using their tournament averages and a handicap of 90% of 230

Handicap Standings
1st place went to MWhite: 670
2nd place went to Aslan: 667
3rd place went to Zdawg: 657

Scratch Standings
1st place went to MWhite: Series:493
2nd place went to Aslan: Series:454
3rd place went to zdawg: Series:372

[MICHAEL]

Looking at the specs for the Turnpike, they apply oil 2 to 2 for the first 12 feet, then buff the oil remaining on the brush down to 41 feet.
On the way back they buff the same from 41' to 32' depending on the capabilities of the machine.

At 32' the begin building the christmas tree pattern from 12 to 12 for 5', then 11 to 11 for another 5', 10 to 10 for 4', 9 to 9 for 4', 8 to 8 for 4', that gets you about 10' from the foul line.
There they go back to 2 to 2 for 4', and buff the first 6 feet of the lane.

Based on the description, Turnpike isn't designed to be difficult other than the ratio of 2.25:1 compared to as much as 10:1 for a THS.

Really,,, All I know it the AMF manager said that I should take that home and frame it! He said no one on the Sports league that day beat my score.... ( Even the assistant manager come up to me, and my wife, and said, get a copy of the that and frame it! All I remember was, they were JACKING WITH ME, (didn't tell me it was the Turnpike) I thought I lost it!!!!!!!! Could not play the 10 board the way I normally do, it just slid on by!!!

They were in the back laughing,,, (ya, VERY FRICKEN FUNNY GUYS,, I thought later) Then the second game, I moved more right, around board 7 or so,,, and aimed at 10,,, but with more angle toward the pocket. I also threw the ball at almost half speed, but kept the revs up. The rest was history....

At that time, they had the Brand NEW Kegal automatic machine that sprays the oil, instead of using wicks,,, they said at the time it was the most accurate oil machine on the market. I can't remember the model number, but I posted about this when it happened almost two years ago.... Mike don't diminish my skill, and luck! 274..... Turnpike!

Could I do this again right now,,, I doubt it very much...lol,,, but the fact is I did do it, just like my last two 300 that were within 6 months of one another... I am ICEMAN!! (

[MICHAEL]

Using the posted score sheets-

Aslan: Series:454 average:151

Total Strikes: 9 of 36 possible
Strike Percentage: 25%

Total Spares: 10 of 22 possible
Spare Percentage: 45.45%

Total Opens: 12 of 30 Frames
Open Percentage: 40%


MWhite: Series:493 average:164

Total Strikes: 10 of 36 possible
Strike Percentage: 27.78%

Total Spares: 14 of 22 possible
Spare Percentage: 63.64%

Total Opens: 8 of 30 Frames
Open Percentage: 26.67%

zdawg: Series:372 average:124

Total Strikes: 5 of 36 possible
Strike Percentage: 13.89%

Total Spares: 9 of 27 possible
Spare Percentage: 33.33%

Total Opens: 17 of 30 Frames
Open Percentage: 56.67%

What if:
Using their tournament averages and a handicap of 90% of 230

Handicap Standings
1st place went to MWhite: 670
2nd place went to Aslan: 667
3rd place went to Zdawg: 657

Scratch Standings
1st place went to MWhite: Series:493
2nd place went to Aslan: Series:454
3rd place went to zdawg: Series:372

GREAT stat's bowl1820!!! thanks..... now we know, (as Paul Harvey would say), The rest of the story!

[Mike White]

What if: Using their tournament averages and a handicap of 90% of 230

Is 90% of 230 considered standard now, or did you just work the numbers until you got the results I would pay you for?

[bowl1820]

Is 90% of 230 considered standard now,

Yeah 90% of 220-230 is pretty standard, maybe Cali. is behind the times. What is it out there still 70-80% of 180-190

or did you just work the numbers until you got the results I would pay you for?

Don't worry there's no way on earth I would work the numbers out in your or anyone's favor.

[tccstudent]

The state tourney next month will be 90% of 220
I dont think I have seen many at 230 but I did overhear someone talking the other day saying when they started it was like 80% of 190 now its gonna soon be going off of 230 soon.

[Aslan]

Our league is 90% of 210.

I have the SD card with the video on it. I don't have time to edit and post it tonight. I was at a house warming party tonight and got work tomorrow.

I'm not sure if I go over it in the league recap or not (interesting video of all 3 of us giving a post game wrap-up in a donut shop), but I really think I had the advantage because I threw the weaker equipment and I threw a rather ordinary, standard, straight ball. In other words, my ball and approach/swing/release was less affected by lane conditions:

- I had a slightly higher loft; which caused the ball to be in contact with the lane surface for less time.
- I played straight up the 9-board the entire time.

Usually I move right as the lanes dry up but during this short tournament with only 3 players, I never had to move my target. I moved a few boards left or 5 or so boards right on the approach trying to find just the right angle…but I never needed to change my target. Rob would say I was "stubborn" not to move off that 9-board. But with Mike playing the inside line…it was really just me and zdawg playing in that area…so the oil didn't seem to be moving around much.

Mike's issue (from my point of view) was really just his first game. When you're giving 150 pins to zDawg and 72 pins to me, you can't throw a 127 in the 1st game. Mike's advantage (that I presumed) was his ability to adapt quickly…but he couldn't. Once he dropped that 1st game…it was all he could do to just keep the pressure on me and zDawg…which he DID in Games 2 and 3.

zDawg's issue (from my point of view) was his speed. His ball (I can't remember what he was throwing) didn't "seem" to be that strong…but at his speed (very low…like 11-12mph) he couldn't keep it right of the headpin. I think he needs to experiment with different backswings and approaches to see if he can add a little more speed (2mph or so). OR…maybe learn to play inside…or even add loft. In the bowling video I watched awhile back, they claim that a good bowler should have 3 speeds and 3 parts of the lane to play. If you add to that an "arsenal" of any size…it gives you a lot of ways to "adjust" to varying lane conditions.

We all seemed to "find our groove" by game 3. For Mike it was just too late. But as I said earlier, zDawg had the tournament in his hands going into the 10th frame. I was holding my breath after he struck in the 9th and opened with a strike in the 10th. Another strike and he woulda been within 7 pins or so of winning the event.

Hopefully the video will be entertaining and give everyone a look into the kinda guys (zdawg, myself, and MWhite) you deal with here online. Maybe it'll confirm what you already think of us, maybe it'll surprise ya….but hopefully it's a LEAST entertaining.

[Mike White]

What if:
Using their tournament averages and a handicap of 90% of 230

Handicap Standings
1st place went to MWhite: 670
2nd place went to Aslan: 667
3rd place went to Zdawg: 657

Scratch Standings
1st place went to MWhite: Series:493
2nd place went to Aslan: Series:454
3rd place went to zdawg: Series:372

I can't get the math to work out the way you did.

I can get a tie between Aslan and myself if the handicap is 50%.

Using your 90% of 230,
Aslan @ 166 would get 57 per game, 171 Total
MWhite @ 192 would get 34 per game, 102 Total
ZDawg @ 142 would get 79 per game, 237 Total

Aslan's 454 + 171 = 625
MWhite's 493 + 102 = 595
ZDawg's 372 + 237 = 609

[bowl1820]

I can't get the math to work out the way you did.

I can get a tie between Aslan and myself if the handicap is 50%.

Using your 90% of 230,
Aslan @ 166 would get 57 per game, 171 Total
MWhite @ 192 would get 34 per game, 102 Total
ZDawg @ 142 would get 79 per game, 237 Total

Aslan's 454 + 171 = 625
MWhite's 493 + 102 = 595
ZDawg's 372 + 237 = 609

That's because your using different averages than I did. I based it on what you averaged in your "Tournament", not league averages.
That prevented someone coming in with a sandbagged average and kept it closer.

What if:
Using their tournament averages and a handicap of 90% of 230

Tournament Averages:
Aslan: Series:454 averaged:151
MWhite: Series:493 averaged:164
zdawg: Series:372 averaged:124

Using the league average you stated:
Aslan was 44 pins under his league
MWhite was 83 pins under his league
ZDawg was 54 pins under his league

If the tourny winner was based on P.O.A.
Aslan was first, zDawg was second and MWhite was last