The White Pattern and my Son's Mother In-Law

[MICHAEL]

While I would welcome this change. How many do you think would not want to bowl because of this. This is the problem we see every summer when trying to build up more interest for our sports leagues. Everyone says they want to but when the time comes they wont because the shot is to hard, and they would rather have the easier predictable shot and the over inflated averages that come with them then actually having to think about what they are doing.

YES, I agree with you tccsstudent 100 percent! Why take the time to make Real Food, instead of the processed, crap that most people buy! Because its easy! Starting back in the 50s, when TV dinners started coming out, its been down hill ever since! But it was Quick, and Easy!

What has happened to the American psych that it wants everything NOW, Quick, and EASY!

Years ago I was building my first Tree house,, Many fircken years ago

I remember My grandpa Malone saying to me: "Mike nothing easy is worth much! Hard work, planning, and determination is what gives value to anything!" "Just don't fall out of the tree to many times", his departing words

He was a Wise man, and I only fell twice, both times on my head, so no damage done!

Yes I am hard headed, but it was one hell of a tree house,,, maybe I should have known then that I would be an Iron Worker putting up buildings, towers, and bridges.. (

[vdubtx]

I think if houses would offer a Sport league during a fall or spring, turn out would be higher. I, like many others, take summers off. There is just too much going on with vacations for everyone etc. I only just started taking summers off this past year so I could work on aspects of my game.

I know around here, the only sport shot leagues that I see are during summer.

[JaMau24]

I think another thing that scares off bowlers is the fact that even though a THS pattern is "predictable", they haven't even mastered it yet. Most people struggle to average over 200 on a THS because they hare highly inaccurate and inconsistent. So if said bowler can't even hit his mark 2-4 times in a row on a THS, how the hell can they expect to have any success or fun on a sport/pba pattern? On a lot of those difficult shots, you can't miss your mark by more than 1-3 boards without major consequences. So when a 220+ bowler (on THS) starts shooting on hard patterns, and they're missing their mark every now and then and it's causing them to shoot 180's and 190's, imagine what the 180-190 avg bowler (on THS) would shoot on a tough pattern...

[J Anderson]

While I would welcome this change. How many do you think would not want to bowl because of this. This is the problem we see every summer when trying to build up more interest for our sports leagues. Everyone says they want to but when the time comes they wont because the shot is to hard, and they would rather have the easier predictable shot and the over inflated averages that come with them then actually having to think about what they are doing.

Our local sport league runs a summer session as well as a winter one. One thing that seems to sell the summer session is the idea that it will make you a better bowler. There is a core of about 16 bowlers who love it so much they go year round. A few like myself love it but feel the need to take a break from it during the summer. Despite my sitting out the league goes from its winter size of 18 to 28 bowlers to about 40 or 50 in the summer. There is a summer core of about 15 bowlers who use the summer session to try to improve. The rest is guys and gals giving it a try.

As much as I like it, I disagree with the statement that bowling on the sport patterns makes you a better bowler. It's more like the device described by Douglas Adams in one of the Hitchhiker's Guide books that show a person exactly how important they are in the universe. Sport patterns show us bad we really are at this game. Some of us take the information and use it to fix our flaws. Others run crying back to the friendly environs of the THS.

[tccstudent]

Three local bowling alleys got a new lane machine that is capable of laying down PBA shots in the last year. Before that there was only one center in the Greater Metro area that had the capabilities of laying down these shots. So now that everyone in town is able to lay these shots down and everyone has one of these leagues in the summer I am not aware of one that is currently going on hopefully there will be one next year.
The PBA league that I bowled this past summer had about 18 people in it. One thing the assistant manager did not like about the league is everyone voted to handicap it. (Why should she even care) We tried to start one for the fall and we only had two teams sign up. Me and one other. I do plan on bowling another one this summer and I would bowl in it in the fall if there was one available.
From my experience with this league I felt it really helped improve my spare shooting. I think that having a shot with a much tighter area also helped my accuracy and aiming. A lot of times on a THS I with my speed and revs I have a HUGE area but on those shots I was only having a 1-2 board area.

[MICHAEL]

I think another thing that scares off bowlers is the fact that even though a THS pattern is "predictable", they haven't even mastered it yet. Most people struggle to average over 200 on a THS because they hare highly inaccurate and inconsistent. So if said bowler can't even hit his mark 2-4 times in a row on a THS, how the hell can they expect to have any success or fun on a sport/pba pattern? On a lot of those difficult shots, you can't miss your mark by more than 1-3 boards without major consequences. So when a 220+ bowler (on THS) starts shooting on hard patterns, and they're missing their mark every now and then and it's causing them to shoot 180's and 190's, imagine what the 180-190 avg bowler (on THS) would shoot on a tough pattern...

A fair point my nemesis, in Me vs Michael, but!! I think ONE of the reasons many people don't have an average over two hundred might just be because YOU DON'T have to be that accurate to get to the pocket with THS pattern.

Maybe,,, JUST maybe if they HAD OT FOCUS on a certain area, speed, rev, hand position, (all the things that you need to do in sports bowing), they might even get better in THS patterns.

I don't know how many times you will see a ball make it to the pocket even after almost going into the gutter on the THS patterns.

I am not saying house patters are a piece of Cake!!! But I will stand by my thoughts that bowling both, I think would make anyone a better bowler.

KEY POINT here being, WITH Sports patterns you have to REALLY FOCUS! Lets face it, even if you don't have a 200 plus average, (MIGHT you be a MUCH BETTER THS BOWLER, if you lean how to really FOCUS,))) AS YOU HAVE 2, on SPORTS SHOTS.

NOW I have only bowl maybe 6 times in my life on sports oil, but what a HOOT!!! I hope to find one this summer!
Like my tree house, maybe I will fall on my HEAD a couple times, but the end result will be worth it, I AM SURE!

[JaMau24]

A fair point my nemesis, in Me vs Michael, but!! I think ONE of the reasons many people don't have an average over two hundred might just be because YOU DON'T have to be that accurate to get to the pocket with THS pattern.

Maybe,,, JUST maybe if they HAD OT FOCUS on a certain area, speed, rev, hand position, (all the things that you need to do in sports bowing), they might even get better in THS patterns.

I don't know how many times you will see a ball make it to the pocket even after almost going into the gutter on the THS patterns.

I am not saying house patters are a piece of Cake!!! But I will stand by my thoughts that bowling both, I think would make anyone a better bowler.

KEY POINT here being, WITH Sports patterns you have to REALLY FOCUS! Lets face it, even if you don't have a 200 plus average, (MIGHT you be a MUCH BETTER THS BOWLER, if you lean how to really FOCUS,))) AS YOU HAVE 2, on SPORTS SHOTS.

NOW I have only bowl maybe 6 times in my life on sports oil, but what a HOOT!!! I hope to find one this summer!
Like my tree house, maybe I will fall on my HEAD a couple times, but the end result will be worth it, I AM SURE!

I understand your point, but I respectfully disagree to an extent. As you said, you can miss your mark way outside, or miss it way inside on a THS pattern, and STILL hit the pocket. That alone means you don't have to be that accurate at all to get strikes and average 200. So for the people that can't do that, that means that they are A. Missing their mark VERY badly. B. Not having a consistent approach/hand release. or C. Having inconsistent speed on the ball.

Knowing that they have a pretty big area to throw the ball and still get to the pocket (for a THS), I can't see how making it a much smaller area for a sport/pba shot is going to get them better results because of focus.

I will say that I believe it's entirely possible for someone who isn't that great on a THS, that starts bowling on sport/pba shots, that they can improve their game on a THS pattern, because with them bowling on the harder patterns, as you said, will make them have to focus harder. So when they get back to an easier shot, they should be able to be more accurate. It all starts with repetition and consistency, though. If that can't be done, then success on either shot won't really come.

[MICHAEL]

I understand your point, but I respectfully disagree to an extent. As you said, you can miss your mark way outside, or miss it way inside on a THS pattern, and STILL hit the pocket. That alone means you don't have to be that accurate at all to get strikes and average 200. So for the people that can't do that, that means that they are A. Missing their mark VERY badly. B. Not having a consistent approach/hand release. or C. Having inconsistent speed on the ball.

Knowing that they have a pretty big area to throw the ball and still get to the pocket (for a THS), I can't see how making it a much smaller area for a sport/pba shot is going to get them better results because of focus.

I will say that I believe it's entirely possible for someone who isn't that great on a THS, that starts bowling on sport/pba shots, that they can improve their game on a THS pattern, because with them bowling on the harder patterns, as you said, will make them have to focus harder. So when they get back to an easier shot, they should be able to be more accurate. It all starts with repetition and consistency, though. If that can't be done, then success on either shot won't really come.

We agree,,,,!! IT JUST MIGHT MAKE them FOCUS more due to the incredible amount of concentration it takes to hit a board, in sports shots! That's all I am saying. In other words, ( IT CAN"T HURT, and might actually help a bunch.) We shall see,,,, I hope to find one this spring/summer.