Finally I've seen the light at the end of the tunnel.

[dnhoffman]

Oh, the drama

[Mike White]

Iceman: Fair enough. What I was going to say in a nutshell was the fact that you bowled a 300 game and could not post a 700 series was plenty proof enough that you had the wrong ball in your hand, at least for the first game. See why I deleted it?

We must have a completely different definition of the word proof.

I think the word you are intending to use is evidence.

Also, it can only be considered a "wrong ball" if I were to have another ball that would have worked in the first game.

I've bowled since the 300 game, and things are a little clearer.

I will say, when my body performed a I hope it will, I have the right ball in my hand.

Every time I released the ball in balance with a nice clean release, that shot resulted in a solid pocket strike.

The problem is, I've been a couch potato for far too many years for the body to perform properly a high percent of the nights shots.

Last Monday was kind of an anomaly.

Since I hadn't thrown many good shots previous to the 300 game, I probably couldn't recognize the feeling of the "perfect" walk, swing, release.

Somehow I managed to have at least that last 10 shots of what I call "tuning fork pure"

Now that I can recognize that feeling, I have a much better idea of the difference between what "pure" and "kinda close" feels like.

So, rather than say I had the wrong ball.. I'll stick with I had the wrong "body".

[Mike White]

Dick


You COCKY SOB!! So you throw ONE 300 game and now you're challenging the GREAT ASLAN for Southern California dominance!??? Wow.


The "Aslan vs ZDawg Billy Hardwick Memorial Southern California Championship/Palooza is scheduled for Temecula on March 1st. So, it hasn't completed yet.



I hope not. I expect a challenge.

Anytime after March 1st...but NOT the weekend of the 22nd where I'll be dominating my league and winning $$$ in Vegas...I would be HAPPY to ablige the GREAT Mike White and get a 1st Annual Phillip Seymour Hoffman Memorial Orange County Championship/Palooza started with you versus me. However, unlike ZDawg who I am graciously GIVING 10 pins per game to...I expect that great Mike White will be giving ME a bit of pins in handicap since I carry a 144-169 average and have been bowling 6 months where as his highness is a 300 game rolling 35 year veteran sporting a 200+ average. I'll settle for 35 pins per game in YOUR house or 20 pins on wood lanes. But realize, wood lanes disappear in April...FYI.

But seriously, PM me your schedule for March/April because I need to have you tri-grip drill my Slingshot. I'm going to semi-retire the Frantic after league ends and need a back-up ball.

I'm not scheduled to work on March 1st. Give me the time, and I'll try to make it there so we can kill two birds on one day.
I'm pretty sure the Bowling Center is owned by the same guy who owns the one I have the shop in.
Not that it would give me any advantage.
I can't even get the mechanic where I'm at to tell me the oil pattern.
I think it's mainly because he doesn't know.

My hours for the for March are
Sunday: 3 - 8
Monday: 12 - 6
Tuesday: 12 - 8
Wednesday: 12 - 8
Thursday: 12 - 8
Friday: 3 - 7
Saturday: Closed

In April, the only change I foresee is changing Monday to 3 - 8

A side note. You refer to a "backup ball".
The bowling world has accepted the term backup ball, as to mean a reverse hook.
You might want to use the term "alternate" rather than "backup"

Just curious, at what point would this "backup ball" be put into service?
Damage to primary ball?
Primary ball not scoring well?
For Spare attempts best converted with a "straight" ball?

[J Anderson]

So, rather than say I had the wrong ball.. I'll stick with I had the wrong "body".

Thanks Mike, this explains why I never played organized baseball, football, basketball, soccer, tennis, or lacrosse.

For bowling I'll stick with my theory of an intermittent disconnect between my brain and my left hand.

[tccstudent]

Maybe we could do a NE Oklahoma challenge there is three of us how bout it Jaescrub

[Aslan]

I'm not scheduled to work on March 1st. Give me the time, and I'll try to make it there so we can kill two birds on one day.

Well thats not FAIR!! I'll be tired from bowling ZDawg!! Unless ZDawg wants to change it from the "Aslan vs ZDawg Billy Hardwick Memorial Souther California Championship" to the "Billy Hardwick Memorial/Southern California Invitational"...and thus all three of us can be invited. However, again, not only does that require zdawg approval...as co-founder of the challenge...but we'd have to agree on handicap. I'm giving zdawg 10 pins per game. I'd expect you to give me...on those lanes...57 pins per game and thus give zdawg 67 pins per game.

ZDawg, what do you think???

A side note. You refer to a "backup ball".
The bowling world has accepted the term backup ball, as to mean a reverse hook.
You might want to use the term "alternate" rather than "backup"

Just curious, at what point would this "backup ball" be put into service?
Damage to primary ball?
Primary ball not scoring well?
For Spare attempts best converted with a "straight" ball?

I call it a "back-up" ball because it is only used in one of THREE situations:
1) 90-97% of the time on "far right" spares. Single 10, 6-10, 6-9-10. Sometimes on a single-9.
2) 5-20% of splits where I can't get the right deflection from the right side...so I try to throw a straight shot up the left side (to deflect the pin to the right).
3) IF the lanes break down a great deal...or it's after a holiday weekend and they haven't been oiled, or after maybe as few as one game on wood lanes...then I'll use the back-up ball as a strike & spare ball. On synthetic lanes, I can usually stay with the Rhythm and just make minor adjustments in lateral position, speed, and/or release. But on wood lanes, the ball is already experiencing so much friction, even on fresh oil...and with the Rhythm having a matte/solid coverstock...I can't seem to play the inside line (especially on wood)...so I have to use the "back-up ball".

But I'll try to call it an "alternate ball" from now on. "spare ball" doesn't fit because there's only a few spares and some splits that I require a "spare ball". And of course...damage I guess. But usually I'm more likely to damage the "alternate ball" than the strike ball since the "alternate ball" is more likely to jetison itself into the gutter trying to hit that damn 10-pin.

[zdawg]

Well thats not FAIR!! I'll be tired from bowling ZDawg!! Unless ZDawg wants to change it from the "Aslan vs ZDawg Billy Hardwick Memorial Souther California Championship" to the "Billy Hardwick Memorial/Southern California Invitational"...and thus all three of us can be invited. However, again, not only does that require zdawg approval...as co-founder of the challenge...but we'd have to agree on handicap. I'm giving zdawg 10 pins per game. I'd expect you to give me...on those lanes...57 pins per game and thus give zdawg 67 pins per game.

ZDawg, what do you think???

I'm down with that if he wants to be a part of this, also I'm interested in talking to somebody about this tri-grip I keep hearing about so yeah cool with me.

[Mike White]

I'm down with that if he wants to be a part of this, also I'm interested in talking to somebody about this tri-grip I keep hearing about so yeah cool with me.

Going to have to pencil me out for at least a month or two.

I have a large bruise on the front of my bicep, and it's tight as hell.

I don't know if I can even throw a ball straight.

I guess the light at the end of the tunnel was actually an oncoming train.

Let me know the time, and I'll try to be there anyways.

Can swing by the casino afterwards and donate some $$ to the poker gods.

[zdawg]

Going to have to pencil me out for at least a month or two.

I have a large bruise on the front of my bicep, and it's tight as hell.

I don't know if I can even throw a ball straight.

I guess the light at the end of the tunnel was actually an oncoming train.

Let me know the time, and I'll try to be there anyways.

Can swing by the casino afterwards and donate some $$ to the poker gods.

Ouch, sounds like it could be a partial biceps tear, I've done that before when I was younger in my powerlifting days and yeah its definitely best to lay off it for a while.

And yeah if you're interested in stopping by, we're shooting for Saturday March 1st, Temecula Lanes at approximately 11am. I'm driving up from downtown San Diego so I'll probably allow myself some extra time so I might show up a little earlier.

[Mike White]

In modern bowling, the solid 8 is no longer "the only true tap." It's caused by a ball that deflects off the head pin, but not quite enough to result in a weak 10.[/COLOR]

What is your criteria for "modern" bowling?
The ball always deflects off the head pin. That is pure physics.
When it comes to the "true tap" you have to determine what happens to the head pin after it hits the 2 pin.
If it gets between the ball and the 5 pin, it can cause the 5 pin to move to the right a little before the ball contacts the 5 pin, and then the ball drives the 5 pin just to the right of the 8 pin.
If you have the opportunity to see some video of "old school" solid 8 pins, you will see the 5 pin is moved before the ball contacts it.

I was just watching the PBA Team competition from Sunday.

Mika left an 8 pin.

If you get a chance to slow-mo you will see exactly the description I gave above.

If you want to say something was wrong with the shot, it hit the head pin fractionally too high.

Not enough to break the 1 - 2 - 4 - 7 chain reaction.