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    Default It all come down to the individual BOWLER!! NOT THE STYLE OF BOWLING

    Quote Originally Posted by swingset View Post
    I think you'll see the predominance of 2-handers in league play, where strike balls are more forgiving and strikes can outpower spare-making.

    When it moves into tourney play on sport shots, it's going to be a much harder thing for the 2-handers to excel. I'm sure some will, as they are now, but I don't think they'll overtake traditional style anytime soon.

    Judging from what I see from the younger guys doing it now, few if any can muster any kind of consistency. Strike/gutter/brooklyn/gutter/strike seems to be how their games work.

    So judging from your observation, having seen the younger guys bowing two handed, it just might be that Jason Belmonte is the REASON it works so well for him!

    In other words, you can coach a NFL quarter back how to play the game, but what makes one so much better then another,,,, ( In my opinion it the Gift) , plain and simple!

    Jason Belmonte is not shooting high scores because of the style so much as because of his OUTSTANDING ABALITY TO perform that style! If broken down in percentages, I would say the Two hand style is for sure a factor, but more importantly is the SKILL OF Jason to Make That Style WORK! 30 percent advantage the style, 70 percent the bowler! NOTHING can replace the Skill of making consistent shots, and knowing how to compensate your throw on a given day!
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    Well my 12 year old daughter is in a league and its best bowler is a 2 hand kid in high school with an average in the low 200's. He just slams the pocket. Saw him shoot 299 about a month ago.

    So, imagine all these kids will be hitting high school and college teams soon. Then in about 5+ years we will have a lot of the elite young 2 handers showing up everywhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by J Anderson View Post
    Any top athlete makes it look smooth and effortless, well maybe with the exception of sports like power lifting. Look at Tiger woods hitting a tee shot, smooth and easy. How many amateurs can come anywhere close to swinging like that?
    THIS!

    Quote Originally Posted by swingset View Post
    Judging from what I see from the younger guys doing it now, few if any can muster any kind of consistency. Strike/gutter/brooklyn/gutter/strike seems to be how their games work.
    THIS!

    I mean, I've SEEN it as well. Most people that talk about 2-handed bowling, like Iceman, see Belmonte and Osku do it and think..."welp...better start bowling 2-handed...it's the next "British Invasion!!" Yet if you watch 2-handed bowlers (the relatively FEW of them) at other levels...it's NOT dominating the sport. There are always a couple good 2-handers in tournaments...but at lower levels, it's just...X, 9 -, X, X, 6 2, 8 1, X, 9 -, 9 /, X, X, X, 8. Like I said...Belmo is a freak of nature...MOST (I mean...most could be replaced with "nearly all") 2-handed bowlers struggle mightily with spares. Some struggle so much they shoot spares 1-handed. It's NOT easy throwing 2-handed to have even a plastic ball not move on you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aslan View Post
    THIS!



    THIS!

    I mean, I've SEEN it as well. Most people that talk about 2-handed bowling, like Iceman, see Belmonte and Osku do it and think..."welp...better start bowling 2-handed...it's the next "British Invasion!!" Yet if you watch 2-handed bowlers (the relatively FEW of them) at other levels...it's NOT dominating the sport. There are always a couple good 2-handers in tournaments...but at lower levels, it's just...X, 9 -, X, X, 6 2, 8 1, X, 9 -, 9 /, X, X, X, 8. Like I said...Belmo is a freak of nature...MOST (I mean...most could be replaced with "nearly all") 2-handed bowlers struggle mightily with spares. Some struggle so much they shoot spares 1-handed. It's NOT easy throwing 2-handed to have even a plastic ball not move on you.
    I can attest to this, as I am a two hander who throws spares one handed.

    Two handed bowling isn't this magical technique that makes you suddenly better. It takes time and practice to get good at.

    and to be honest most people are better off bowling one handed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I suck at bowling View Post
    I can attest to this, as I am a two hander who throws spares one handed.

    Two handed bowling isn't this magical technique that makes you suddenly better. It takes time and practice to get good at.

    and to be honest most people are better off bowling one handed.
    I think you are absolutely correct in your appraisal! Jason started when he was a small boy, its very natural to him.
    He is pretty damn good, form what I have seen picking up spares, (unlike most weekend warrior bowlers like myself).

    No one said it was a magical technique, Science says it is!! If you, Aslan, or myself were to give it a go, I am sure speaking for myself if would be a bitter disappointment!

    I have never seen Jason Belmonte miss a ten pin throwing his style!! He has mastered it! He is without a doubt the best two hander on plant earth!

    Is it magical, YES if your good enough to know how to use the magic!!
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    So it's not magical? But it is Magical?

    Ice…if it was a SUPERIOR style…then LOGICALLY…everyone would be better off switching to it because pound for pound, it's better. Many bowlers have switched to more modern releases. Modern bowling proponents would say this is evidence that modern bowling releases are hands down superior to the old ways. IF 2-handed was "hands down" better than 1-handed…I can guarantee many, many pros would simply switch styles…just like they did their releases over the years.

    It's an interesting style. Pound for pound if done perfectly (like thumbless) it can provide you a better strike rate. But if done imperfectly…is an absolute disaster. And, as Iceman has hinted at…Belmonte is a unique specimen in that he CAN do it perfectly.

    So Iceman…if you TRULY believe it's pound for pound better than 1-handed…and Rob does as well…PLEASE feel free to switch to 2-handed and tell us how it goes. If NOT…the lets table this discussion 15 years and see how things go.

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    Default Ok,,, I will, and Did!!

    I did last night Aslan,,, I looked at a few instructional videos, by Jason Belmonte, went to the lanes, and WOW!

    Thanks for the GREAT ADVICE Aslan!! You know,,, Aslan,,, Rob has nothing on YOU!! My Bowling, health, and life has changed for the better, just reading your threads!

    KEEP THE Wisdom coming!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MICHAEL View Post
    I did last night Aslan,,, I looked at a few instructional videos, by Jason Belmonte, went to the lanes, and WOW!

    Thanks for the GREAT ADVICE Aslan!! You know,,, Aslan,,, Rob has nothing on YOU!! My Bowling, health, and life has changed for the better, just reading your threads!

    KEEP THE Wisdom coming!!!
    Yes but please longer paragraphs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mudpuppy View Post
    Yes but please longer paragraphs
    Aslan's threads are sooooooo long that........?????? add your comment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MICHAEL View Post
    I did last night Aslan,,, I looked at a few instructional videos, by Jason Belmonte, went to the lanes, and WOW!

    Thanks for the GREAT ADVICE Aslan!! You know,,, Aslan,,, Rob has nothing on YOU!! My Bowling, health, and life has changed for the better, just reading your threads!

    KEEP THE Wisdom coming!!!
    I look forward to seeing the videos of Iceman bowling 2-handed. Or should I say, I look forward to Iceman bowling the new, superior bowling style that is soon to dominate 10-pin bowling in the years to come.

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