The Future of Bowling TWO HANDS!?

[dpatrickv]

There are always a couple good 2-handers in tournaments...but at lower levels, it's just...X, 9 -, X, X, 6 2, 8 1, X, 9 -, 9 /, X, X, X, 8. Like I said...Belmo is a freak of nature...MOST (I mean...most could be replaced with "nearly all") 2-handed bowlers struggle mightily with spares. Some struggle so much they shoot spares 1-handed. It's NOT easy throwing 2-handed to have even a plastic ball not move on you.

To be honest....Looking at your score thread....Your games look to be pretty similar to what you are describing about two handers.

It doesn't matter how you throw, if you don't practice enough or have some level of natural ability then you will not excel at it. Sitting there and saying most 2 handers are inconsistant and can't do this or that seems like calling the kettle black when you can't even be consistent with your one handed throw.

Oh and before you come back and try to blast me about your new and just learning and getting better...maybe think about these two handers you keep complaining about and the fact that they are doing the same thing.

[Mudpuppy]

To be honest....Looking at your score thread....Your games look to be pretty similar to what you are describing about two handers.

It doesn't matter how you throw, if you don't practice enough or have some level of natural ability then you will not excel at it. Sitting there and saying most 2 handers are inconsistant and can't do this or that seems like calling the kettle black when you can't even be consistent with your one handed throw.

Oh and before you come back and try to blast me about your new and just learning and getting better...maybe think about these two handers you keep complaining about and the fact that they are doing the same thing.

Good point and way back in the day when Belmo was just a little lad in the outback do you think he might have had some kind of learning curve as well? I'm sure he had doubters - that 2 handed style will never get you anywhere, etc. Just the fact he won bowler of the year title says something. That, in itself, is a success. Why does he need 30 titles to prove it to you? So any bowler has to have multiple titles to be successful? 1 handed, 2 handed, no handed. Doesn't matter - that is the criteria for success.

[Aslan]

So any bowler has to have multiple titles to be successful? 1 handed, 2 handed, no handed. Doesn't matter - that is the criteria for success.

I think you asked and answered your question. Yes, bowling TITLES are generally the way we measure PBA bowling success.

It doesn't matter how you throw, if you don't practice enough or have some level of natural ability then you will not excel at it. Sitting there and saying most 2 handers are inconsistant and can't do this or that seems like calling the kettle black when you can't even be consistent with your one handed throw.

Oh and before you come back and try to blast me about your new and just learning and getting better...maybe think about these two handers you keep complaining about and the fact that they are doing the same thing.

dpatrick....this is kinda poitless at this point because you're invested so heavily in 2-handed/thumbless that it won't matter if I say 999 good things about it...if I say one negative you'll just get over-excited. What I meant about 2-handed bowlers is everything has a plus and a minus. The minus of going that long and snapping back into the pocket with the ferocity is...if you miss...you leave washouts and things like that that tend to be more difficult to pick up. Every style has it's pluses and minuses.

And I wasn't criticizing the youth bowler...he did a great job in game 3 and appeared nearly unbeatable. But you have to realize, that was a tournament level, very experienced youth bowler. That wasn't his first tournament (like it was mine). I was just using him as an example...I coulda picked at least 2 others that I witnessed first hand really, really struggle and then catch lightening in a bottle. Look at Tom Daugherty, thumbless, and the fact that he is at times nearly unstoppable and then he throws the lowest game ever televised. The evidence is there...but if people who LOVE thumbless and 2-handed bowling don't want to admit it and just want to pile on the Belmo bandwagon express...thats fine. I don't really care. It doesn't change what I do each week and what I need to focus on. And like I said...maybe 15 years from now when Belmo is chasing the titles lead we can re-visit this issue and I'll be proven wrong. But until then, he's a PBA bowler with 8 titles. Thats all he is.