Rob, and Aslan
The bottom line,,, RG, equipment, drilling, or rather the bowler himself/herself!! Adjustments can be made! Rob I know your a golfer, as am I! Or should I say I play the game, score in the 80s,, high and low! Jason here in Kansas city can pick up anyone's ball and throw a 200 plus game! As long as he can get his fingers in a ball. I have a huge span, his thumb and fingers are MUCH smaller then mine! But he can make my ball do remarkable things!
A PERFECT EXAMPLE of how it all boils down to the individual might be this:
Brought up on the “wrong side of the tracks” (as they say in America) there could hardly ever have been anyone less likely to make the grade as a professional golfer.
The young Trevino took to hanging around driving ranges and golf courses at an early age, in order to pick up a few dollars by doing odd jobs, and by caddying for the wealthy members.
It wasn’t too long before he had a golf club in his hands, and one of the most unlikely success stories that the golf world has ever seen had began.
Lee Trevino was born in Dallas, Texas in 1939, the son of immigrant Mexican workers to the United States.
He soon got so good at the sport that no one would play him for money, so young Lee took to playing his tee shots with an old Coke bottle wrapped in insulating tape to stop it from shattering. By this ploy he was able to manage to get other players to challenge him. Little did they know that even using his bottle he could hit the golf ball further than most scratch golfers!
I hate to say this Aslan: But you either have the gift, or NOT! All the Rg's, and coaches in the world will not make a big difference.
You have been bowling for almost 20 years.... Iceman started at 62 1/2... No coaches, didn't know a thing about RGs, two 300s in less then 6 months.
Also Rob, my first 300 back in april, after I shot that 300 second game, my third game I was DRUNK!! I bowled the 300 with an IQ pearl storm ball butterscotch.... all my friends kept buying me snoops, butterscotch flavored! Hey I don't drink at all, and after about 6, I didn't even know how I was, or where I was!!
NOW my last 300 a few months ago, I stayed in the focus! I used ONE BALL the Virtual Gravity nano! 300, 216, made some adjustments, and 264, for a 780. Almost a double ring day at 65!! and only 3 years of league bowling
NO ball change, on a 10 person league, so lots of oil movement.
I honestly think to bowl high scores, you first have to have the gift, then FOCUS and make adjustments! I did on my last 300 and 780!
My main problem is FOCUS,,,FOCUS,,,,, and FOCUS!!!
I have GREAT DAYS, and I have Average days, sometimes I have Aslan days!!! It's just life!!
Last edited by MICHAEL; 02-08-2014 at 11:41 AM.
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I will not disagree that having the gift will help greatly. but I believe that practice makes perfect someone with "the gift" may not need much practice while others can and do develop their game through years of practice.Originally Posted by MICHAEL
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In the Bag: Storm IQ Tour Fusion, Brunswick Mastermind Genisu, Roto Grip Asylum and Ebonite Maxim
Final Book Averages for Fall:192 Current averages in Summer: PBA 182, Tuesday 202, Thursday 205
A very wise Chinese philosopher once said, "Man who chooses to knock his head against a stone wall, chooses to get a headache." I'm assuming that this also applies to a wall made of Ice(man). I think I'll pass!
If practice, and coaching make you a skilled 200 plus bowler,,, what happen to Aslan??? I think I know his problem!
He needs a Woman, because he don't have THE GIFT! I on the other hand Iceman must have the gift, but found out WAY TO LATE at 63!! (where could I be today, if I would have started bowling back in my 50s!!!))
I do agree practice may be even more important then coaching! Look at Jason Belmonte,,, He started out throwing the ball when it was almost as big as him,,,, HE DEVELOPED his style, and with his natural gift, he is one of the top bowlers in the world! Coaching had little to do with his style, 99 percent of bowlers in his town, bowled with one hand! His partent have said, they just let him do his thing! Good bowlers are Born, not developed!
Practice will help anyone, I use to think coaching helps, but then look at Aslan?? Prime of his life, many years of bowling under his belt,,,, but,,,, BUT,,,,,, still treading water, has not learned how to swim! Bless his heart! (
Last edited by MICHAEL; 02-10-2014 at 05:33 PM.
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A VERY WISE HALF BROTHER TO THAT Chinese also said
A very wise half brother to the Chinese philosopher you mentioned above also said: "Never swim up stream, especially when the water is only one foot deep" "Its simpler, many times to just walk"
Or my lawyer friend, Sue Man Sue! He once said, "It is better to bowl with a bowling ball, then to use a marble, no matter how big the marble is, its still just a marble"
So Rob,,, your a passer!! LOL,,,,, Just remember Rob, I am old, like yourself, it hard to teach an old Iron Worker new tricks, but I do read your material and appreciate your thoughts, and in reality have enjoyed reading your comments! KEEP IT UP!!!
Even Ice Walls allow thoughts, and ideas to penetrate, that's a cold reality.... Iceman
Don't walk on Thin Ice!
It's just that everything moves slower in the cold!
John
@ Michael - You confuse me sir lol. Every time i see you post it could go from unicorns to president Obama and next thing I know your talking back about the thread your on. Plus all the ,,,,,, confuse the hell out of me lmao
Just needed to get that off my chest, idk if I am the only one lmao
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You're not alone. Iceman's thought process is a lot like Wonderland (from Alice in Wonderland). Sometimes it's pretty straight forward….and then sometimes it just goes off into fantasyland. But, if it weren't for him, I'd be responsible for 100% of the entertainment…and nobody wants that.
Just needed to get that off my chest, idk if I am the only one lmao
I see what you mean Rob, but it seems to me like the only way you can compare bowling balls fairly is to take the brands away. Like you referenced, I'd say 95% of bowlers only buy a ball because of it's brand or name or color or smell. There's no way to convince a DV8 or Motiv fan to buy Columbia or Brunswick. Does that mean Motiv or DV8 are better? Not only are they "not" better….many times those brands are made by the same company. And sometimes, it's SO silly…because people will buy a ball simply because they have a Hammer 3-ball roller and a Hammer towel and therefore only buy Hammer so it all matches. Stupid.
Thats why I went for pure numbers. I don't look at ball brands AT ALL when I'm choosing my next ball. My decision is based on either the videos I've watched (not a great way to choose) or price (definitely not a great way to choose). I just thought numbers would be more fair and non-prejidicial.
I really think it's a shame. I understand it, and it's been like this since Hammer burst on the scene back in the 80s…but it's just too bad that brands like Ebonite, Columbia, and Brunswick don't get a better fan base. Columbia and Brunswick had been making high quality bowling equipment for so long. But, it happens.
cnfused???? I know what you NEED!!
It might be confusing to a mere mortal! Remember, I am a super Hero! I defend the helpless, the widows, and orphans that have no one else to defend them! I always have a cryptic message hidden within my threads! Codes so to speak!!
Just needed to get that off my chest, idk if I am the only one lmao
Read some of my messages backwards, for their true meaning! ! Walrus The am I (did you get that one??)
Cart3r27, I just read some of my messages backwards, and I am confused too!
The best thread I have posted, along with Jason24,,, is me vs Michael! It is accepted in many universities as a 3 credit hour class! Read some of that, and then tell me you don't get the meaning!
Their are cliff notes you can get at your local book store on,,,, or just send my $24.33, and I will send you my Iceman decoder device!! Then you too will know what I am really saying along with top officials for the US government! Yes,,, although bowling is my cover, keeping America Safe is my real quest!
WAIT,,, if you act NOW, you can get TWO,,, not one, but TWO decoder rings for 48.66!!!
Act now Cart3r27, THIS IS A LIMITED time offer!
Last edited by MICHAEL; 02-10-2014 at 12:50 AM.
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