Ever stop and think what really causes a ringing 10 pin?

[Mike White]

BUT if the ball is leaving 10 pins and you do nothing, you might have a situation like I had 2 years ago. I KID YOU NOT 9, 10 pin leaves in a role!!!

Which part were you playing?

Did you get top billing?

[Mudpuppy]

Ever stop to think............................................. ..................................and forget to start again?

[swingset]

There's only one uniform rule about 10 pin leaves - you hit the 3 wrong.

Only thing that can possibly leave a 10 is the angle that the 3 hits the 6 - and that is strictly and uniformly caused by WHERE the ball hits the 3 (pocket).

That's why movement and ball change and all kinds of recipes change the outcome...but don't necessarily explain WHY the 10 is still standing there.

Losing energy, poor angle, too much energy, deflection coming in, too little deflection - they all matter, but it all changes for the better when you hit the 3 in the right place.

I know people will argue me on this, but the video shows it. Weak pocket hit wouldn't have tripped the 6 around the pin, if the angle of entry had been different - in order cancel out the weak roll. Or, a stronger roll wouldn't have deflected right on the headpin and thus would have changed the hit to the 3-6.

Hit the pocket in the right place, even with a 6lb house ball, and the 3 trips the 6 into the 10. Every time.

I hate over simplifications, or recipes to change the 10 pin leaves that presumes everyone is hitting in the exact same spot. The pocket is actually pretty wide, and no matter what you're doing there is an optimal angle for YOUR ball to hit it....whether you're Belmo or 82 year old Marge Hegstrom throwing a 9lb'er.

Hit it right, and the 3 goes into the 6 and hits the 10.

[Mudpuppy]

There's only one uniform rule about 10 pin leaves - you hit the 3 wrong.

Only thing that can possibly leave a 10 is the angle that the 3 hits the 6 - and that is strictly and uniformly caused by WHERE the ball hits the 3 (pocket).

That's why movement and ball change and all kinds of recipes change the outcome...but don't necessarily explain WHY the 10 is still standing there.

Losing energy, poor angle, too much energy, deflection coming in, too little deflection - they all matter, but it all changes for the better when you hit the 3 in the right place.

I know people will argue me on this, but the video shows it. Weak pocket hit wouldn't have tripped the 6 around the pin, if the angle of entry had been different - in order cancel out the weak roll. Or, a stronger roll wouldn't have deflected right on the headpin and thus would have changed the hit to the 3-6.

Hit the pocket in the right place, even with a 6lb house ball, and the 3 trips the 6 into the 10. Every time.

I hate over simplifications, or recipes to change the 10 pin leaves that presumes everyone is hitting in the exact same spot. The pocket is actually pretty wide, and no matter what you're doing there is an optimal angle for YOUR ball to hit it....whether you're Belmo or 82 year old Marge Hegstrom throwing a 9lb'er.

Hit it right, and the 3 goes into the 6 and hits the 10.

I agree 1,000%. I leave very few 7 pins being left handed. Why? Because when I do I immediately change something - move up, move right, move left and/or change the speed or my mark slightly. Any of those work 99% of the time. I watched a guy last night leave the 7-10 not 1, not 2, but 3 times in a row. I am screaming in my head - move, change something, but quit throwing the same way it was painful to watch. Especially twice I had grabbed my ball to towel it off and had to set it down to wait for him to finish. I am not super superstitious about throwing my ball when someone gets a split but the 7-10 is one I will not throw against. Maybe not superstition but it does distract me.