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    Quote Originally Posted by tccstudent View Post
    When I was talking to my proshop guy yesterday this was one of the topics brought up by someone else.
    If you are doing a storm ball and wanting to bring it back to OOB go 360,500, then jump to final finish. Storm does not step up all the way like the other comapnies do
    That's not exactly right, take a look here at the Storm resurfacing guide:

    http://www.stormbowling.com/docs/Res...Guide_2012.pdf

    Which show the steps used to return a ball to the OOB surfaces.

    then read the Possum to Performance article by storm here:

    http://www.bowlingboards.com/threads...f-Box-Reaction

    The "360,500, then jump to final finish" sounds more like something based on this article.

    Their reason is something to with the resin the use in their balls.
    It's not the type of resin used, it's using the rights grits in the right order. To create the right peaks and valleys in the surface to generate the right amount of friction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bowl1820 View Post
    That's not exactly right, take a look here at the Storm resurfacing guide:

    http://www.stormbowling.com/docs/Res...Guide_2012.pdf

    Which show the steps used to return a ball to the OOB surfaces.

    then read the Possum to Performance article by storm here:

    http://www.bowlingboards.com/threads...f-Box-Reaction

    The "360,500, then jump to final finish" sounds more like something based on this article.



    It's not the type of resin used, it's using the rights grits in the right order. To create the right peaks and valleys in the surface to generate the right amount of friction.
    The context of the conversation was more based on how Storm processes their balls
    so he was saying after the mold the 360,500, then the jump to the oob surface
    He was saying that if you follow those same steps that Storm intially used to prep the balls for market. You will be able to get much closer to the desired OOB reaction
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    Bowl, when taking my First Blood to OOB do I only use 500 3 times on all 6 sides and then 1500 with final Power house Factory Finish? Or do I start at like 180&360 then 500 and 1500?
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    Also, is it better to sand dry or keep the pads wet and rinse off between sides?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tccstudent View Post
    He was saying that if you follow those same steps that Storm intially used to prep the balls for market. You will be able to get much closer to the desired OOB reaction
    If you could prep a ball the same way the factory does, yes you would get closer to the OOB surface. But you can't that's the problem.

    Bowler's and ProShops don't have the same equipment and abrasive materials that the factory doe's when surfacing balls.

    Most just have spinners, that's why they came up with the spinner guidelines for resurfacing balls. Now a Haus machine or Cook sphere machine or storm surface factory coukd be closer but they are still not same.

    If you have a ball with a factory 1500 polished OOB (which a lot of Storm balls do) and sand it 360/500 then direct to a 1500 polish, that's not going to be the same as the factory surface. that will be a lot more texture than the org. OOB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vdubtx View Post
    Bowl, when taking my First Blood to OOB do I only use 500 3 times on all 6 sides and then 1500 with final Power house Factory Finish? Or do I start at like 180&360 then 500 and 1500?
    I would start with 500,
    2 sides @500, 2 sides @500, 2 sides @500 then 1500 and polish.

    the only time I would use a 180/360 was if I was doing a full resurface and had to remove a lot of material to get out some deep scratches , gouges etc or if a OOB called for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vdubtx View Post
    Also, is it better to sand dry or keep the pads wet and rinse off between sides?
    personally I wet sand, it helps keep the pads from loading up, keeps them cool and keeps the dust down.

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