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    Quote Originally Posted by Aslan View Post
    I want Iceman to weigh in on this.

    This discussion is giving me a headache.
    Yeah, if you don't recognize all the detours that Bowl1820 has taken, it can feel like he's tied in knots.

    In the process of trying to follow him down the rabbit hole, I did notice your post had a comment I missed the first time.

    While as a whole, a typical synthetic lane is less flat than a typical wood lane, you were specifically asking about the area near the arrows.

    Since the area near the arrows (10' to 15') is part of the lane inspection criteria, that area is probably flatter than wood lanes.

    Bowl1820 seems to think the topic was depressions in synthetic lanes, while you focused on depressions in wood lanes.

    Depressions on wood lanes are caused by balls being thrown, and therefore are parallel to the common ball path.

    Depressions on synthetic lanes are caused by installation/weather, and that means they are not normally parallel to the common ball path.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike White View Post
    Yeah, if you don't recognize all the detours that Bowl1820 has taken, it can feel like he's tied in knots.
    What Mike meant to say is if you don't recognize all the detours that He has taken, it can feel like he's tied it knots.


    In the process of trying to follow him down the rabbit hole, I did notice your post had a comment I missed the first time.

    While as a whole, a typical synthetic lane is less flat than a typical wood lane, you were specifically asking about the area near the arrows.

    Since the area near the arrows (10' to 15') is part of the lane inspection criteria, that area is probably flatter than wood lanes.
    As for the rabbit hole, Mike dug it. When he started talking about oil pooling up in said track.

    Bowl1820 seems to think the topic was depressions in synthetic lanes, while you focused on depressions in wood lanes.
    And Mike seems to read in to things only what he wants to see.

    As I said in regard to Aslan's post all I commented on was That the groove he referred to in wood lanes is called the Track . And that they did have devices for checking the level and for depressions of the lane surface.

    All the comments after that were directed to mikes comments.

    Depressions on wood lanes are caused by balls being thrown, and therefore are parallel to the common ball path.
    That true.

    Depressions on synthetic lanes are caused by installation/weather, and that means they are not normally parallel to the common ball path.
    But they are not limited to just installation/weather depressions, you said it yourself:
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike White View Post
    Synthetic lanes don't develop a depression type of track.
    They develop a higher friction / worn surface type of track.
    "A worn surface type of track" what's causing the wear? The ball. Just like on a wood lane.

    So a wear pattern can develop (that worn path will develop into a depression overtime) that's parallel to the common ball path also.

    Will it happen as fast on Synthetic as on wood? No. Synthetic lanes are harder, but they are not a frictionless environment either. All surfaces wear and the ball will cause wear on the lane surface.

    That's why Synthetic Lanes have a maintence program including polishing. But a big part of the time the houses don't follow it.
    Last edited by bowl1820; 04-11-2014 at 11:55 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aslan View Post
    I want Iceman to weigh in on this.

    This discussion is giving me a headache.
    LOL...LOL.... I some times wonder if MIKE is married! I would think he would be ONE HARD Cookie to live with!! He's always "HIS way", His point of view! Does hard headed and stubborn come to mind !!! LOL

    Aslan,,, YOU ask,,, well: Like the Pope, Mike is infallible in regards to bowling! In his world, Mike is, in regards to bowling, all knowing, and should not be questioned. With all that knowledge, I would think his average would be over 200??? Me, unlike MIKE don't know jack shirt, no coaching, and I have the same average as him!

    I can only assume knowledge alone is not what makes a good bowler, but rather raw talent, (((LOL, as I HAVE SAID MANY TIMES BEFORE!)


    WHY,,, Can't we just give opinions on this award winning web site! Mike you get so FRICKEN personal with 1820, and Rob. Give us your thoughts, no need to attack others for THEIR thoughts and or ideas! LIGHTEN UP!
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