Speaking for myself give me a GOOD OLD TWO PERSON TEAM

[MICHAEL]

Iceman I would rather bowl on a doubles league also but
it is hard to get a doubles league going around here now
days as most around here want to bowl on a 4 person
handicapped league.

I just wish we could get another singles and doubles scratch
league going again like we had back in the late 80's up to the
mid 90's. I loved bowling on them but nobody around here wants
to bowl scratch leagues anymore it seems.

My scratch doubles partner Joe and I still hold as of this day
the center and local association high scratch doubles game
and scratch series from back in 1994 with a scratch doubles
game of 590 and a scratch doubles series of 1629.

I agree with the PROBLEM finding scratch leagues!! Both AMF's close to where I live have nothing but handicap leagues! I am not handicapped??? Maybe older, and several war injuries from Iron Work, but not handicapped?? I don't get it!

We live in society of people trying to keep a level playing field in regards to many sports, but especially bowling? I like REALITY, not give me stuff!!

I am by no means a great bowler, but on a given day can bowl with the best of them! Now I am not saying those days are many having a 190 to 200 average depending on what league, but I can, and do like to go up against reality, not some person with a 160 average getting 50 pins, having a better then his average day!

I feel your pain ,,,, and wish bowling had more REALITY bowing leagues! Too much B.S. involved with handicap!

I hope to find a league like that around town somewhere! I know many might think handicap is a good thing, but I don't mind losing to a better man/woman, knowing on another day I just might beat them scratch.

Nice record,,, you and Joe had/have!!!!

[mc_runner]

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There are some humans I enjoy bowing with, but not many! Remember I am only half human,,, ICEMAN! I love to bowl, I fricken LOVE THE SPORT! Most People are what ruin my day! There are some I enjoy being around, maybe a half dozen or so.

I would enjoy bowing even more if I went up against Robots! Robots that don't need smoke breaks, or a shot of whiskey, or half gallon of beer, off talking to other bowlers several lanes down!

I totally agree with you! Ironically the trio league is wayyyy worse for that sort of thing. Although it's probably because the 5 person league takes so long in between frames that people actually have time to do that stuff and still make their turn.

[MICHAEL]

I totally agree with you! Ironically the trio league is wayyyy worse for that sort of thing. Although it's probably because the 5 person league takes so long in between frames that people actually have time to do that stuff and still make their turn.

ON ONE OF MY 5 person teams, we had a guy (on another team) , going next door washing his cloths!!!!!!!! WAY to much time in-between shots.... One guy went to the Barber Shop, (two doors down) and got a buzz, in between shots,,,,, It can get CRAZY!!! Give me two person league's, no time for that kind of stuff!! (

[vdubtx]

ON ONE OF MY 5 person teams, we had a guy (on another team) , going next door washing his cloths!!!!!!!! WAY to much time in-between shots.... One guy went to the Barber Shop, (two doors down) and got a buzz, in between shots,,,,, It can get CRAZY!!! Give me two person league's, no time for that kind of stuff!! (

Those types of things should be addressed in your league meetings with consequences for not being present when it is your turn.

[tccstudent]

ON ONE OF MY 5 person teams, we had a guy (on another team) , going next door washing his cloths!!!!!!!! WAY to much time in-between shots.... One guy went to the Barber Shop, (two doors down) and got a buzz, in between shots,,,,, It can get CRAZY!!! Give me two person league's, no time for that kind of stuff!! (

We have a two man PBA shot league starting in a few weeks you are more then welcome to drive from KC every week and join us.
Most of my leagues move pretty good there is a team or two that moves pretty slow but they have improved after receiving multiple complaints.
But right now if you need to get a refill at AMF it will take longer then it takes to get back to your turn even if there is nobody in line.

[MICHAEL]

We have a two man PBA shot league starting in a few weeks you are more then welcome to drive from KC every week and join us.
Most of my leagues move pretty good there is a team or two that moves pretty slow but they have improved after receiving multiple complaints.
But right now if you need to get a refill at AMF it will take longer then it takes to get back to your turn even if there is nobody in line.

I would take you up on that offer were it not for the distance!! LOL

[Perrin]

My favorite format I think is one they call King of the Hill around here.

It's a singles league but you bowl with a partner every time.

4 bowlers per Pair A, B, C, D
Game 1 A, B vs C, D
Game 2 A, C vs B, D
Game 3 A, D vs B,C
Game 4 is highest handicap total with lowest vs the two in the middle.

Fast paced and you get to actually bowl 'with' new people all the time. leads to a level of comraderie in the league that I appreciate.

[circlecity]

My favorite format I think is one they call King of the Hill around here.

It's a singles league but you bowl with a partner every time.

4 bowlers per Pair A, B, C, D
Game 1 A, B vs C, D
Game 2 A, C vs B, D
Game 3 A, D vs B,C
Game 4 is highest handicap total with lowest vs the two in the middle.

Fast paced and you get to actually bowl 'with' new people all the time. leads to a level of comraderie in the league that I appreciate.

This is something I would love to do but how can it be singles league if your paired with a partner thus using their scores as well? Have they ever just had A vs B, C VS D and so on?

[Perrin]

This is something I would love to do but how can it be singles league if your paired with a partner thus using their scores as well? Have they ever just had A vs B, C VS D and so on?

It is kindof a mixed environment. the games are all 2 man teams but the points are awarded to individuals

for each team game you win you as an individual get 5 points. THen you also do total team series 4 points for highest down to 1 for lowest.

if you have a horrible night and drag all your partners down with you then you only get 1 point for the night.

If you have a great night and bring your partners along you can get 24.

Generally speaking the next week you would be paired with 3 other bowlers

There is also in individual point system where you get 1 point for each other bowler you beat in a game.
So if the league is 20 bowlers you could get from 0-19 points per game. These points determine the seeding for the next week of bowling. (top 4 individual points for the week bowl against each other the next week down through bottom 4

It's kindof complex now that I try to explain it

[zdawg]

We have a two man PBA shot league starting in a few weeks

This is exactly what I'm looking for, only in San Diego. I saw one league a few months ago, but it was more than two people, and since it's scratch I don't want to join a team and bring their team average down, however if I can find one that is two person I can have my buddy join me - since we both just want sport league experience and don't care if we finish in last place this will be ideal, hopefully I can find something.