Question regarding moving left. Any systems??

[Aslan]

Looking for advice/input here:

Backstory: I have a method where I move my feet left 3 boards, then move my feet back 3 boards but change my target left 1 board. I then repeat that. For example;

T6/R2, T6/R1, T6/C, T6/L1
T7/R2, T7/R1, T7/C, T7/L1
T8/R2, T8/R1, T8/C, T7/L1
T9/R2, T9/R1, T9/C, T7/L1

then ball down...

If the ball hits left of the headpin...I move 2 boards instead of 1. If it hits a "little" left...I move ONE board left.

However, I changed that after noticing I needed a bit more angle as lanes broke down...and started moving FIVE boards left before re-setting/changing target.

The downside to the method historically has been sometimes I'm not moving left fast enough. The downside to changing to the FIVE board move (before resetting) versus THREE board move...is by the time I reset (change my target one board left), I'm almost always left of the headpin on those first couple shots.

My potential solution is to move 5 left then correct 3...then 5...then correct 3, etc... The PROBLEM with that is by the end of the process I'll be standing at L9 (29) and throwing across to T9 (9). That would amost certainly cause me to throw the ball DIRECTLY into the right gutter.

So you more experienced folks that do a lot of moving around left to find oil...what are your hints/tricks/methods so you move fast enough but not so fast that you end up throwing the ball directly into the gutter?

I know Rob stays away from the outside and 2nd arrow areas. And I know the USBC current teachings seem to point towards using a target further down lane (break point) and adjusting feet/eyes. But I'm trying to keep this lateral movement SIMPLE....so I'm not using Trigonometry as I am on the approach (believe me....I think too much as it is)...but not OVERLY SIMPLE so Im just moving left till I throw it in the gutter, then balling down and repeating. Thanks!

[Amyers]

Aslan,

A few questions about this how often are you moving on average? I usually move 2 or three left with the feet and 1 board on the lane until I get to an angel that I'm not comfortable with then I will ball down or change my line to the third arrow or farther in whichever I think would work better that night. Is this in a league or when you are practicing? I haven't bowled a large league in a long time but in our current leagues I'm in it only two to a team on both of them I generally don't have to move much under those conditions.

[RobLV1]

The only system that you can really depend on is keeping your eyes open, and react to what you see. You need to be aware of where you are playing at the arrows in relation to the other bowlers on the pair. If you are playing the second arrow, and there are two or three other bowlers playing between 10 and 12, then your only option is to move three left with your target to hit thirteen. How many you move with your feet in relation to that three board move with your eyes depends on what you see down the lane. If you notice that balls are beginning to die at the breakpoint rather than making it back to the pocket, then you may want to move three with your feet to match the three with your eyes, and bring the breakpoint in down the lane. If the breakpoint is still providing the right amount of friction, then you may want to make a larger move with your feet, five boards for instance to get your ball to the same spot down the lane. It's all a matter of watching what is going on with the lanes and the other bowlers, and adjusting accordingly.

[Aslan]

I'm in it only two to a team on both of them I generally don't have to move much under those conditions.

Yeah. With 2 players per team I doubt you'd have to move much unless they are all playing the same spot. I've only played in 4 and 5 person teams and even with that amount, during league play I usually don't have to move "too" much nor ball down until sometime around the 3rd game depending on how many righties and lefties there are. Plus, I generally start out closer to the 5-board, well outside the people playing the 9-12 area...so I got fairly clean conditions for the first game.

It's all a matter of watching what is going on with the lanes and the other bowlers, and adjusting accordingly.

Yeah. I'm still working on getting more aware of what goes on further down the lane. Right now Im concentrating so much on the approach/release/accuracy that I often forget to watch what the ball is doing and where once it gets past midlane.

[rv driver]

Yeah. With 2 players per team I doubt you'd have to move much unless they are all playing the same spot. I've only played in 4 and 5 person teams and even with that amount, during league play I usually don't have to move "too" much nor ball down until sometime around the 3rd game depending on how many righties and lefties there are. Plus, I generally start out closer to the 5-board, well outside the people playing the 9-12 area...so I got fairly clean conditions for the first game.


Yeah. I'm still working on getting more aware of what goes on further down the lane. Right now Im concentrating so much on the approach/release/accuracy that I often forget to watch what the ball is doing and where once it gets past midlane.

Call me ignorant; in all my years, I've never heard the term "ball down." What does it mean?

[tccstudent]

Call me ignorant; in all my years, I've never heard the term "ball down." What does it mean?

going to a weaker ball

[rv driver]

going to a weaker ball

Ah. Makes sense now. Thanks!

[Amyers]

Yeah. With 2 players per team I doubt you'd have to move much unless they are all playing the same spot. I've only played in 4 and 5 person teams and even with that amount, during league play I usually don't have to move "too" much nor ball down until sometime around the 3rd game depending on how many righties and lefties there are. Plus, I generally start out closer to the 5-board, well outside the people playing the 9-12 area...so I got fairly clean conditions for the first game

Aslan I wonder if two things aren't happening to you one I wonder if your ball speed is dropping in that third game and causing the ball to hook more or more likely when you are moving left you may be moving yourself into the track that those other players are leaving who are playing ten twelve there isn't a whole lot of oil on most patterns out at 5 anyway. Have you tried moving in to 15 (third arrow) and moving right with feet? I like to play between 8-10 but if it burns up a lot of time I can move in put the feet at 25 to thirty and throw at 15 to 17. I've never seen you play a line like that in you videos have you ever tried it?

[RobLV1]

If you ever get the chance to practice on the fresh (you probably don't, so the next time you come to Vegas, if you can get up early, I'll treat so you get the opportunity, see what happens to the oil line, with just you bowling. Trust me, I've done it. Twelve boards left in 6 games! Modern balls SUCK up oil. Synthetic oil goes AWAY. You can't move too fast, only too slowly.

[Amyers]

Maybe a difference for me both of my current balls are pearls and I bowl on older wooden lanes. My leagues are fresh but where I struggle on the outside is during practice sometimes when they have dried out