POLISHED vs Matte

[MICHAEL]

I know what you have said Rob about polish, BUT in my case all, ALL my best games and series have been with Highly polished balls. I have tried here recently taking the polish off, and using my spinner to take several balls up to a 4000 surface.

RESULTS,,, not good in my case. NOt real bad, but not the energy that seems to be in the polished ball.

To me my Virtual Gravity Nano pearl, and IQ peal highly polished (almost look like marble, polished with my spinner four sides), works for ME. Another strange thing is one is symmetrical, while the other is Asymmetrical, but both Higly Polished in common!
Both have given me strong 700s and 300s! So in my case, the common denominator is POLISH!

It clears the heads great and darts into the pocket with lots of energy. All my 700's and 300s have been with higly polished balls.

I wonder what most of you out there find to be your best surface,,,, Polished, or Matte??? Now I am speaking house oil, not sports, what type of ball, POLISHED, or Matte works for you.

I am sold on polish,,, it has been VERY, VERY good to ICEMAN lol

[Doghouse Reilly]

"what type of ball, POLISHED, or Matte works for you."

Both, it all depends on what conditions I bowl on.

If a polished ball works on the condition you bowl on all the time, Then you use a polished ball.

Will a polished ball work at it's best on all conditions? No. the same can be said about a matte ball also.

If someone else is using a different surface than you, doe's that mean you have to change your surface or use the same surface they have? No

Looking at what surfaces others use, is like looking at other peoples layouts. Just because it works for them, doesn't mean it will work for you.


A thought

If you always bowl high scores with a polished ball, what do you blame when you have a bad night with that polished ball? Is it always the conditions, your release, the line everyone else is playing etc?

Could it ever be possibly the wrong surface?

[MICHAEL]

"what type of ball, POLISHED, or Matte works for you."

Both, it all depends on what conditions I bowl on.

If a polished ball works on the condition you bowl on all the time, Then you use a polished ball.

Will a polished ball work at it's best on all conditions? No. the same can be said about a matte ball also.

If someone else is using a different surface than you, doe's that mean you have to change your surface or use the same surface they have? No

Looking at what surfaces others use, is like looking at other peoples layouts. Just because it works for them, doesn't mean it will work for you.

I would have to say at 4 different bowling establishments, all with their house oil, High Polish Always works for ME! It works on dry, medium to dry, and oily lanes.

Remember talking HOUSE Pattern.

I am speaking for ME, when I say it works on all three conditions I mentioned above.

I was just curious if ON A HOUSE OIL STANDARD pattern, ( and I know they vary), what is you go to ball! Not sports patterns.

Yes surface is important, and I am using the out of box surface on my two favorate balls. V.G. nano peal, and IQ peal. I like that deadly aim ball, but I am not as consistant with it as I am the two mentioned! I need to explore different surfaces!!

I don't always, (((LIKE EVERYONE ELSE, LOL)))) bowl high scores! Even Mike White, and Aslan have their bad nights where no matter what they do it just doesn't seem to work!! I was that way Friday, until I pulled out my V.G. Nano Peal, HIGLY POLISHED ball at the beginning of the third game, and almost threw a 300! 7 strikes then a 10 pin, picked it up,,,, then strikes until the 10 frame left a 10 pin and MISSED THE DAMN THING!!!! GRRRRRRRR

I started out with the deadly aim,,, just couldn't get it to work, it had a 4000 surface fresh, with a coat of dull shine! Maybe I will try it without the dull shine Monday!

[Mike White]

I know what you have said Rob about polish, BUT in my case all, ALL my best games and series have been with Highly polished balls. I have tried here recently taking the polish off, and using my spinner to take several balls up to a 4000 surface.

RESULTS,,, not good in my case. NOt real bad, but not the energy that seems to be in the polished ball.

To me my Virtual Gravity Nano pearl, and IQ peal highly polished (almost look like marble, polished with my spinner four sides), works for ME. Another strange thing is one is symmetrical, while the other is Asymmetrical, but both Higly Polished in common!
Both have given me strong 700s and 300s! So in my case, the common denominator is POLISH!

It clears the heads great and darts into the pocket with lots of energy. All my 700's and 300s have been with higly polished balls.

I wonder what most of you out there find to be your best surface,,,, Polished, or Matte??? Now I am speaking house oil, not sports, what type of ball, POLISHED, or Matte works for you.

I am sold on polish,,, it has been VERY, VERY good to ICEMAN lol

The symmetrical ball is only symmetrical while undrilled.

Once you drill it, it's asymmetrical, with the new mass bias being located near the thumb hole.

If a balance hole is added, the mass bias will shift towards that hole.

If a symmetrical ball is drilled without a thumb hole, it can end up very close to symmetrical, but then a balance hole is recommended to generate significant asymmetry.

Surface preparation is very bowler, and oil pattern specific.

On a typical house condition, the last thing I need is a matte ball.

I'll find out soon, if I even need matte on sport patterns.

My bag(s) consist of:

White Dot.
99% of my spares shot with this
Lacks a little hitting power when used for strikes.

Mix (drilled with excess side weight, then balance hole to make legal)
Initially hooked a bit too much at home, so I incrementally increased balance hole, to the point where I removed ALL of the side weight.
Now I can used it for a game, maybe two, but it tends to end up nose diving the 3rd game.

Red Mix (drilled over label)
My go to ball at my home lanes, lasts all 3 games.

Tropical Breeze (drilled with the pin 1" from the PAP, for low flare, polished)
Hooks too much at home, but worked great in Laughlin, for the first game+.
Had it in the car, when I went to Foothill, but ultimately didn't need it.

Byte (polished)
Drilled it for Laughlin and Sports patterns, so far, never thrown.

Marvel-S (matte)
Drilled it for Laughlin and Sports patterns, so far, never thrown.

We went to Laughlin this weekend, and I arrived about 30 mins before the place went into Cosmic Bowling, so I didn't have time to get my stuff and bowl.

However there was a guy in my league (ex-PBA) practicing.

I watched him for about 5 shots, which told me plenty about how I would attack the lanes the next morning.

Who the hell schedules bowling sweepers at 9:00 am.

I was in bed asleep at 10 pm, up at 5 am, just so 9 am didn't feel so damn early.

[Amyers]

Iceman what are you using as your base for the polish? It matters the polish evens it out some but you still have the grooves from the original surface their is a difference between 2000 polished and 4000 polished. All of the balls you have mentioned are pearls have you tried a true solid? I'm just wondering I have always preferred pearls too. I've had trouble out of solids before but haven't tried one in a long time mainly not hitting as hard and burning up but I'm a lower speed guy I'm sure those guys who pitch at 20 mph don't have that problem

[MICHAEL]

Iceman what are you using as your base for the polish? It matters the polish evens it out some but you still have the grooves from the original surface their is a difference between 2000 polished and 4000 polished. All of the balls you have mentioned are pearls have you tried a true solid? I'm just wondering I have always preferred pearls too. I've had trouble out of solids before but haven't tried one in a long time mainly not hitting as hard and burning up but I'm a lower speed guy I'm sure those guys who pitch at 20 mph don't have that problem

Good point on the speed! I can throw light/slow, or fast! Many times when I think, that the oil is getting burned up, a fellow bowler will say, Ice,,, your speed is slowing down. Then I will focus on amoung other things adding more speed, and usually that does solve the problem!

I have 4 different brands and types of polish,,,, anywhere from Storms 1500 clean and shine to Brunswick's 5000 high polish, with several others types and brands and grits!

I must admit it fun to try different surfaces on balls, and keep written records, so that if it DOES WORK, you know you have the right formula for that ball on those lanes that night! Again,,, if you are a serious bowler, and love the sport, get yourself a spinner... cost of ONE high end ball!

[MICHAEL]

Surface preparation is very bowler, and oil pattern specific.

On a typical house condition, the last thing I need is a matte ball.


good info, and I agree about the matte ball on house condition. That too is very, (as you put it so properly) bowler specific!
Interesting info..... thanks Mike

[vdubtx]

I prefer matte finish to polish personally. I like the Hyper Cell at 2000 grit on a fresh house pattern. My Disturbed is at 1500 grit. My IQ fusion I have at 4000 no polish. First blood is the only ball I have that has polish on it, that one is at oob surface 1500 polish. Uproar I have now at 3000, thinking of taking it to 4000.

All depends on the ball and how they react on the lane for you. My iq and uproar I just did not like the reaction with polish. But, still learning both of these balls, could change in future.

[tccstudent]

I generally dont throw alot of polished equipment The only ball I have polished right now is the deadly aim

[larry mc]

I know what you have said Rob about polish, BUT in my case all, ALL my best games and series have been with Highly polished balls. I have tried here recently taking the polish off, and using my spinner to take several balls up to a 4000 surface.

RESULTS,,, not good in my case. NOt real bad, but not the energy that seems to be in the polished ball.

To me my Virtual Gravity Nano pearl, and IQ peal highly polished (almost look like marble, polished with my spinner four sides), works for ME. Another strange thing is one is symmetrical, while the other is Asymmetrical, but both Higly Polished in common!
Both have given me strong 700s and 300s! So in my case, the common denominator is POLISH!

It clears the heads great and darts into the pocket with lots of energy. All my 700's and 300s have been with higly polished balls.

I wonder what most of you out there find to be your best surface,,,, Polished, or Matte??? Now I am speaking house oil, not sports, what type of ball, POLISHED, or Matte works for you.

I am sold on polish,,, it has been VERY, VERY good to ICEMAN lol

i tend 2 like matte unless on a desert condition , i throw hard and tend 2 overpower polished equipment