POLISHED vs Matte

[RobLV1]

It all depends on how you play the lanes. If you stand on the big dot and hit the second arrow, then polished probably works for you because YOU'RE PLAYING IN THE DIRT! If you can figure out how to get out of the parking lot and play the oil, then you will undoubtedly prefer some surface. What's your choice? Do you want to improve? Do you want to keep being a Typical House Bowler and feel good about your average on a condition that hands it to you on a silver platter? Your choice.

[Amyers]

It all depends on how you play the lanes. If you stand on the big dot and hit the second arrow, then polished probably works for you because YOU'RE PLAYING IN THE DIRT! If you can figure out how to get out of the parking lot and play the oil, then you will undoubtedly prefer some surface. What's your choice? Do you want to improve? Do you want to keep being a Typical House Bowler and feel good about your average on a condition that hands it to you on a silver platter? Your choice.

Rob I see just as many people throwing with matte surfaced balls throwing down the second arrow as I do with polished balls I am not sure that acting as if playing with a polished ball is less skilled than throwing surfaced equipment is a good equation does that mean people throwing balls with 1000 grit surface are more talented than those playing with 4000 grit surface? I get the general principle off the people who only throw one line but beyond that I'm not sure what your getting at with this. I play the second arrow sometimes 1st arrow sometimes 3rd or between 2nd and 3rd moving my feet. I am starting to learn to open my shoulders and hips allows to roll the ball farther out but I'm not sure how playing surfaced or polished equipment makes you a more or less advanced player

[RobLV1]

My comment had more to do with the type of reaction that many house bowlers mistakenly want to see, than with playing the second arrow. We all play the second arrow, or the first arrow, or the third arrow, etc. when the condition demands it. The fact of the matter is that among bowlers at the highest level, you will rarely see a polished bowling ball. These bowlers are looking for a smooth, consistent reaction that will carry the most corner pins, and find that polished balls tend to over-react to friction. Many house bowlers are looking for a hockey-stick type of reaction that looks very impressive, but doesn't do nearly as effective a job in carrying the corner pins. A polished ball playing the oil line gives them the look that they like, just not the carry that they could get by learning to play different parts of the lane with non-polished equipment.

[Amyers]

My comment had more to do with the type of reaction that many house bowlers mistakenly want to see, than with playing the second arrow. We all play the second arrow, or the first arrow, or the third arrow, etc. when the condition demands it. The fact of the matter is that among bowlers at the highest level, you will rarely see a polished bowling ball. These bowlers are looking for a smooth, consistent reaction that will carry the most corner pins, and find that polished balls tend to over-react to friction. Many house bowlers are looking for a hockey-stick type of reaction that looks very impressive, but doesn't do nearly as effective a job in carrying the corner pins. A polished ball playing the oil line gives them the look that they like, just not the carry that they could get by learning to play different parts of the lane with non-polished equipment.

Okay that makes much more sense to me

[rv driver]

My comment had more to do with the type of reaction that many house bowlers mistakenly want to see, than with playing the second arrow. We all play the second arrow, or the first arrow, or the third arrow, etc. when the condition demands it. The fact of the matter is that among bowlers at the highest level, you will rarely see a polished bowling ball. These bowlers are looking for a smooth, consistent reaction that will carry the most corner pins, and find that polished balls tend to over-react to friction. Many house bowlers are looking for a hockey-stick type of reaction that looks very impressive, but doesn't do nearly as effective a job in carrying the corner pins. A polished ball playing the oil line gives them the look that they like, just not the carry that they could get by learning to play different parts of the lane with non-polished equipment.

I understood that matte balls reacted more to friction than polished. ?!?!

[Stormed1]

A lot depends on oil pattern,lane surface, ball speed,rev rate..etc. As aslower spped bowler with a rev rate of 600+325 for my Friday league I have a Disturbed at 500/4000, Primal Rage OOB (1500 polished) Venom Shock OOB 000 matte), Tribal OOB (2000 polished) and IQ Tour Fusion OOB (1500 polished). This league is on 2nd generation Pro-Anvilane. My Monday league is on older Brunswick synthetics which have a lot of friction. My arsenal for there is Times Up solid 4000 + polish, Times Up pearl 2000 + polish, Gold IQ Tour pearl 3000 + polish and a silver Recon 4000 + polish. When I sub on Tuesday and friday nights on wood I take a Cobra se 4000+polish, Ascent Pearl 4000 + polish and the 2 Times up(

[MICHAEL]

Not sure why, but all my very best games are with polish period!!

I found with the Byte that I can play the inside, and it does a beautiful hook back into the pocket that hardly EVER leaves a 10 or 7. I bolwed for several hours that day, (the day of the Storm demo), and like my Virtual Gravity, nanno peal, or my IQ butterscotch peal, this SURFACE and finish works great for me.

I will pick my new Byte up Thursday afternoon, can't wait to see if it has the magic that the demo ball had. My driller, and owner of BP Pro Shop, Bruce Provost is not only a hell of a bowler, but and X pro! We took pictures of THAT ball from all angles, even weighed it to make sure the layout will be very close!

He now drills for some of the Pros to this day, and has balls ordered and drilled for people all over the world. He knows his stuff!

I guess I was a bit surprised how well the Byte works on the inside, being polished, and I believe 1500 grit.

QUESTION: On a Storm ball, when it says 1500 out of box, what process do you apply to get that, and do most of you pro shop guys, when doing it for a customer, do you use the 4 side, or 6 side resurfacing technique

[bowl1820]

QUESTION: On a Storm ball, when it says 1500 out of box, what process do you apply to get that, and do most of you pro shop guys, when doing it for a customer, do you use the 4 side, or 6 side resurfacing technique

Here you go again:

From Storm:
1500-grit Polished Factory Finish
1. 500-grit pad – Sand firmly for 30 seconds on all four sides.
2. 1000-grit pad – Sand lightly for 20 seconds on all four sides.
3. 2000-grit pad – Sand lightly for 20 seconds on all four sides.
4. 4000-grit pad – Sand lightly for 20 seconds on all four sides.
5. Storm® Step Two™ – Polish lightly for 15 seconds on each side.

[RobLV1]

rv driver: Matt balls find more friction in the oil, while polished balls reaction more violently to the friction and skid more in the oil. The reason that most of the pros tend to avoid polished balls is that they are prone to inconsistency on over/under conditions. Most typical house shots are over/under by nature with an oil line being provided for bowlers around the second arrow.

[rv driver]

rv driver: Matt balls find more friction in the oil, while polished balls reaction more violently to the friction and skid more in the oil. The reason that most of the pros tend to avoid polished balls is that they are prone to inconsistency on over/under conditions. Most typical house shots are over/under by nature with an oil line being provided for bowlers around the second arrow.

Ok. Makes sense. Thanks!