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    Quote Originally Posted by bowl1820 View Post
    No the difference between the 1500 and the 4000 is

    leaving off 2 steps, the polish & the 1000 grit

    as well as the difference in the sanding times.


    There's logic and science and it's about creating the proper surface topography to allow the ball to read the lane properly.
    YES, I did know from reading your info that the polish was not on the 4000 finish.... and that the sanding times were different!

    I also realize its for a certain PROPERTY to the balls surface.... but,,, BUT THE FRICKEN NAMES GIVE YOU NO CLUE AS to what it is... (

    a storm 1500 is NOT A 1500 grit. Why not call them a Name, instead of a grit? LIKE all Storm ball with a 1500 grit out of box, call them
    Surface 1, since its a very standared surface,,,, call the 4000 Surface 2,,,, the damn number don't jive with EVEN THE FINAL STEP of a 1500.

    Is it just ME.....

    by giving them a name you could go to storm and find out what steps, it takes to get THAT SURFACE.

    I sometimes think some people think that just touching up a ball with 4000 grit pad, gives them the out of box surface for a 4000,,,, but as I now know its NOT! NOT EVEN CLOSE, and could actually make the ball self destruct!! (

    You need all the other steps to make it a ACTUAL out of box 4000....

    They need to lose the 4000 out of box title and give it a SURFACE NAME......so says ICEMAN!!!
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    I think Storm may use a different grit chart than other companies, thus the use of the abralon pads for instance at 4000 grit = 1500 grit in US terms. Europe(where the Abralon abrasives are produced) uses a standard called FEPA. USA uses a ANSI or CAMI standard.

    Check out this chart.
    http://home.earthlink.net/~litefroze...grit_chart.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by MICHAEL View Post
    by giving them a name you could go to storm and find out what steps, it takes to get THAT SURFACE.
    You can already do that.

    The link for the surface chart has been posted numerous times, in your other threads talking about surfaces, in other peoples threads about surfaces.

    Here it is again
    http://www.stormbowling.com/docs/Res...Guide_2012.pdf

    Just right click on this link and "Save Link As"

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowl1820 View Post
    For the most part back in the day, most polishes were just re-purposed auto polishes. They didn't for the most part have grits listed.

    Also the grits listed are more like approximations, because there's not really a grit scale for liquid abrasives/polishes.
    Oh for the good old days I bet you never seen it advertised as urethane 1500 turtle wax polished

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowl1820 View Post
    You can already do that.

    The link for the surface chart has been posted numerous times, in your other threads talking about surfaces, in other peoples threads about surfaces.

    Here it is again
    http://www.stormbowling.com/docs/Res...Guide_2012.pdf

    Just right click on this link and "Save Link As"
    I KNOW,, bowl1820.... I KNOW!! LOL IT JUST doesn't make sense! I do use the method shown and have since I got my spinner. I like the 4 side appellation vs the 6 sides!

    YES THEY HAVE BEEN POSTED numerous times,,,, and their is something psychologically disturbing about the whole GET-UP, that makes me want to FORGET-ABOUT-IT!!

    BUT<<< BUT,,, I did write ALL you info down, and just took it out to my Bowling Work Shop!!

    I WILL NEVER ASK AGAIN..... BaNk On It! (
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    Quote Originally Posted by MICHAEL View Post
    I KNOW,, bowl1820.... I KNOW!! LOL IT JUST doesn't make sense! I do use the method shown and have since I got my spinner. I like the 4 side appellation vs the 6 sides!

    YES THEY HAVE BEEN POSTED numerous times,,,, and their is something psychologically disturbing about the whole GET-UP, that makes me want to FORGET-ABOUT-IT!!

    BUT<<< BUT,,, I did write ALL you info down, and just took it out to my Bowling Work Shop!!

    I WILL NEVER ASK AGAIN..... BaNk On It! (
    Until you decide to resurface a non storm ball or lose what you wrote it on anyway😊

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    This seems so fussy. If you're good and knowledgeable enough to know that your ball needs resurfacing, you're likely to know 1 of 2 things: 1) the steps necessary to correct the balls' surface, or 2) take it to the pro and say, "The ball ain't workin' right." The pro will watch you bowl, know what needs to happen, and fix the ball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rv driver View Post
    2) take it to the pro and say, "The ball ain't workin' right." The pro will watch you bowl, know what needs to happen, and fix the ball.
    This isn't always feasible or easy, as many pro shops don't like to take the time to learn about the bowler. Only there to take your money and ask "What do you want it to do?". I finally gave up on the pro shops with that mentality in my area and found one that actually cares about your game, your arsenal, and makes suggestions based on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bowl1820 View Post
    You can already do that.

    The link for the surface chart has been posted numerous times, in your other threads talking about surfaces, in other peoples threads about surfaces.

    Here it is again
    http://www.stormbowling.com/docs/Res...Guide_2012.pdf

    Just right click on this link and "Save Link As"
    When the topic rises AGAIN, maybe since you are the mod, move the discussion to one of the previously discussed threads so all information is in one place. I am grateful though that you post the links to the information AGAIN, as I don't remember seeing those discussions prior to this thread. So many threads gets buried with other topics etc. it is hard to find the info AGAIN even if I did read it before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MICHAEL View Post
    BUT THE FRICKEN NAMES GIVE YOU NO CLUE AS to what it is... (
    Also, ICEMAN, you can go to each page on the Storm site for the particular ball you are wanting information on and click on the "Downloads" link and it will give you a link to the Tech Specs for the ball including surfacing instructions.

    Here's the page and Tech sheet for your new ball.

    Storm Byte

    Storm Byte Tech Sheet

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