Achieved another of my goals, finally got the monkey off my back!!!

[mc_runner]

Aslan already bowls more than 5 games a week. But his average is increasing does he get an 800 anytime in the near future? I don't know. Also don't know that I will get one either have had multiple 600's but my all time high is 673.

I think he means 800 series over 5 games

[Amyers]

I think he means 800 series over 5 games

Oh yeah didn't think of it that what the h*** it's Monday

[Amyers]

I firmly believe that when someone is trying to get to say a 190 average the game is probably 80% physical 20% mental. Once a player gets to say a 205+ then the game becomes 80% mental and 20% physical. At that point you probably throw the ball well enough to average close to 220 but it is just those few mistakes a night that keep you from it. Of course it depends on the house your bowling at as well, the par at your center may be 215 or it may be 240. It is a huge leap though from 205 to 220, i think that is probably the same difference as 175 to 205.

I agree with this completely on the physical versus mental side of the argument. I will also say the difference between any of these points is an extra spare and strike a game. I know easier said than done.

[rv driver]

I agree with this completely on the physical versus mental side of the argument. I will also say the difference between any of these points is an extra spare and strike a game. I know easier said than done.

Then it becomes a matter of focus, attention to detail, and adaptability.

[MICHAEL]

Simple task, sign him up for a league that bowls 5 games each week.

HEY I am not his daddy!! He's a big boy, and what difference would that MAKE????

[MICHAEL]

Practice, practice, practice. The thing that gets someone to a 220+ average is the ability to reproduce shots every time. I would agree with Iceman that it's easier for some people to do it naturally than others (like WRW with his deadly accuracy) but for your general once or twice a week league bowlers, without practice you probably won't be magically getting to that level.

I know a good number of 220 plus bowlers, and they don't practice except for league night. Some bowl ONE league and others up to four! I think that a lot of that deadly accuracy is a GIFT,,,, many people just cant duplicate it, and thus the lower average! Making ajustments is very important also, but that can be picked up through trial and error! PRACTICE IS A GOOD THING, but not as important as first have the GIFT!
Can you hit baseballs 7days a week in in practice and then have a 400 average,,, NO,,, practice is only a PART of being a 220 plus bowler.

I think it just takes more practice for some people than others. Whether that be 4x a week for a year, or 7x a week for 2 years, or 20 years of working on your game - I don't think anyone doesn't have the ability to get there (which is where I agree with Amyers). The other half of the picture is mental game, and again some people are just way more naturally inclined to zone in than others. But again, I wouldn't immediately discount someone from ever getting to a level because of it - just like the physical game, it takes practice to get to a good place. I've seen a few books about the mental game posted up here and elsewhere.

Jason,,, here in Kansas city had on one league this year a 233,,,, he never practiced at all last year, or had coaching????

I HATE TO JUST SAY this, but I THINK ITs TOTALLY TRUE,,, Coaching it a good thing, Practice is a good thing,,, but without that GIFT,,, YOUR never going to hit that 220 plus,,,, I hope some of you out there prove me WRONG!

You know at the gym where I work out I can see him now, a Guy that no body works out harder then! Has had several of the best trainers, giving him advise on who to maximize his workout for best results.... He is into eating properly, much better then me... but he cant build muscle mass and still after several years of knowing him, looks exactly the same, only older. It his genetics. Their is NOTHING wrong with his, he just can't put on muscle mass like he wants!

We each have a limit that we can work within, to maximize the GIFT in anything you can think of.... ART,,, MUSIC,,,, sports..... you name it!

[MICHAEL]

Aslan already bowls more than 5 games a week. But his average is increasing does he get an 800 anytime in the near future? I don't know. Also don't know that I will get one either have had multiple 600's but my all time high is 673.

I feel your pain!! LOL,,, this is not a serious topic for ICE!! LOL I know that in all sports, the ones that excel are the GIFTED ONES.. Average
Joe blows like myself, have our moments, but will never be 220 aveage bowlers,,, nor with the best coaching in the WORLD, run a 100 yard dash in 10 seconds, hit a golf ball over 300 yards, win the grand slam in tennis.

MY point is: Coaching and practice can ONLY GET YOU SO FAR....

[MICHAEL]

HEY I am not his daddy!! He's a big boy, and what difference would that MAKE????

daaaaaa, I get it!!! LOL,,,, LOL,,, yes he might make it then!!! ( Wow that went right over my head!! (

(in regards to Aslan getting that 800, bowling ON a 5 game league.. ( )

[rv driver]

I feel your pain!! LOL,,, this is not a serious topic for ICE!! LOL I know that in all sports, the ones that excel are the GIFTED ONES.. Average
Joe blows like myself, have our moments, but will never be 220 aveage bowlers,,, nor with the best coaching in the WORLD, run a 100 yard dash in 10 seconds, hit a golf ball over 300 yards, win the grand slam in tennis.

MY point is: Coaching and practice can ONLY GET YOU SO FAR....

yeah, but "giftedness" will only get you so far, as well. I don't know of any "gifted" athletes that have neglected their "gift" by not taking advantage of good coaching and lots of practice. Even "gifted" athletes will fail, at some point, without objective guidance and practice. The point is, a gifted athlete, with proper coaching, will not only break a 10 sec. 100, s/he will also be more likely to get to olympic competition. "220 average" is an arbitrary, glass ceiling. Gifted bowlers might be able to attain that without coaching, but more importantly, gifted bowlers may go beyond that average. This isn't about "attaining averages." It's about being the best one can be -- and coaching is invaluable toward that end -- gifted or not.

[mike_thomas93]

Nice shooting there, sir. Thumbs up(: