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    Another thing bad about having wood lanes is the wood can
    only be cut down so many times then the wood has to be
    replaced with something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by got_a_300 View Post
    Another thing bad about having wood lanes is the wood can
    only be cut down so many times then the wood has to be
    replaced with something.
    When you're resurfacing lanes only a very small amount of wood is removed I have never heard of wood lanes being replaced because they are out of wood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amyers View Post
    When you're resurfacing lanes only a very small amount of wood is removed I have never heard of wood lanes being replaced because they are out of wood.

    That WOOD make sense to me!!! Yes we talked about that the other day while bowling at this NEW HOME for ICEMAN! If they have and opeing,,,, I am going for it!! 37 miles,,,, but waiting for me,,,,, WOOD be those wonderful challenging would lanes.... !! LOL I love to play with words!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MICHAEL View Post
    That WOOD make sense to me!!! Yes we talked about that the other day while bowling at this NEW HOME for ICEMAN! If they have and opeing,,,, I am going for it!! 37 miles,,,, but waiting for me,,,,, WOOD be those wonderful challenging would lanes.... !! LOL I love to play with words!!
    Your word play just goes against the grain.

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    Nothing wrong with wood or synthetics I like them both. Both have their issues and I hate to rain on you parade mudpuppy but the oil is affected by temperature and humidity more than the the wood both types of surface change with the weather.
    You can rain all you want but you are incorrect. The wood lanes have a very high rate of variance on their surface with or without temp / humidity vs a synthetic. Oil is a whole other issue. The oil is more uniformly applied on a synthetic lane than a wood lane. Is a synthetic lane perfect? Not at all. But it is clearly a superior surface to wood for use in a bowling lane. Tell you what we can go to our local bowling alleys and use our lithium ion circular saws to cut some samples out to put under the microscope and subject the samples to different temp and humidity and then you can explain to me how wood is the same as synthetic. I bowl Saturdays on wood and Mondays on synthetic. I have bowled a lot of houses with both types of lanes. The wood lanes the shot varies 300% more than the synthetic lanes - regardless of what time of year it is. Why is that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mudpuppy View Post
    You can rain all you want but you are incorrect. The wood lanes have a very high rate of variance on their surface with or without temp / humidity vs a synthetic. Oil is a whole other issue. The oil is more uniformly applied on a synthetic lane than a wood lane. Is a synthetic lane perfect? Not at all. But it is clearly a superior surface to wood for use in a bowling lane. Tell you what we can go to our local bowling alleys and use our lithium ion circular saws to cut some samples out to put under the microscope and subject the samples to different temp and humidity and then you can explain to me how wood is the same as synthetic. I bowl Saturdays on wood and Mondays on synthetic. I have bowled a lot of houses with both types of lanes. The wood lanes the shot varies 300% more than the synthetic lanes - regardless of what time of year it is. Why is that?
    The very fact that it does vary,,,,,,, is what makes it more of a challenge,,,,,,,, and a good thing to me!! ( On a house shot its that predictability, that to many including Bill O'Neal that has taken the challenge and sport out of bowling! Someone posted a thread with him giving comments, and I agree with most of his thoughts, and ideas!

    He thinks that part of the PROBLEM with the sport of bowling is that it is SO EASY... I believe he even mentioned my NAME,,, ICEMAN! He said if and old broken down 64 year old Iron Worker can bowl two 300 games and 780 series with the last one,,,, SOMETHING IS defiantly WRONG!! LOL He, goes on to say it use to mean something to roll a 300 game,,, A BIG DEAL!!! But now on synthetic oil and new ball technology to go along with it... they happen quite often!

    He gives some good ideas on how to get the sport back in bowing, and make it more challenging! I know at Plattsburg another REASON why they don't have a sanctioned 300 game in all these years, is it was Hand oiled up until they got the new reconditioned lane oiler 3 years ago.

    Bill O'Neal mentions all the 220, 230 averages on house oil, and the false sense of grander those blowers have about HOW GOOD A BOWLER THEY THIK THEY ARE.
    Put then on a PBA Sports shot, most couldn't' hit 200. Good point

    Maybe one of the very REASONS why there has never been a 300 game since this alley opened in 1957! WOOD,,,, the real Old school test of a bowlers skills... and the fact that they CHANGE THE PATTERN from week to week,,,, 35, 38, and 40 foot... them Salt of the Earth Farm boys like a challenge! (

    I DREAM OF BEING THE FIRST ON THIS BEAUTIFUL 6 LANE bowling alley!!!! Will Iceman be that person..... odds are very slim,,,, but I have never in my life backed down to a challenge.... IT WOOD BE a moment in my LIFE like NO OTHER!!! Other then the day I met my wife for the FIRST TIME!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mudpuppy View Post
    You can rain all you want but you are incorrect. The wood lanes have a very high rate of variance on their surface with or without temp / humidity vs a synthetic. Oil is a whole other issue. The oil is more uniformly applied on a synthetic lane than a wood lane. Is a synthetic lane perfect? Not at all. But it is clearly a superior surface to wood for use in a bowling lane. Tell you what we can go to our local bowling alleys and use our lithium ion circular saws to cut some samples out to put under the microscope and subject the samples to different temp and humidity and then you can explain to me how wood is the same as synthetic. I bowl Saturdays on wood and Mondays on synthetic. I have bowled a lot of houses with both types of lanes. The wood lanes the shot varies 300% more than the synthetic lanes - regardless of what time of year it is. Why is that?
    I'm not saying that synthetics are not more resilient to humidity/temperature than wood. Just not that there are no issues with synthetics. Especially older synthetics and synthetics that have been laid over wood. Its all good. Like I said I enjoy both and I will agree that lane to lane consistency is better on synthetics but then again that is part of the challenge with wood
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    Quote Originally Posted by MICHAEL View Post
    The very fact that it does vary,,,,,,, is what makes it more of a challenge,,,,,,,, and a good thing to me!! ( On a house shot its that predictability, that to many including Bill O'Neal that has taken the challenge and sport out of bowling! Someone posted a thread with him giving comments, and I agree with most of his thoughts, and ideas!

    He thinks that part of the PROBLEM with the sport of bowling is that it is SO EASY... I believe he even mentioned my NAME,,, ICEMAN! He said if and old broken down 64 year old Iron Worker can bowl two 300 games and 780 series with the last one,,,, SOMETHING IS defiantly WRONG!! LOL He, goes on to say it use to mean something to roll a 300 game,,, A BIG DEAL!!! But now on synthetic oil and new ball technology to go along with it... they happen quite often!

    He gives some good ideas on how to get the sport back in bowing, and make it more challenging! I know at Plattsburg another REASON why they don't have a sanctioned 300 game in all these years, is it was Hand oiled up until they got the new reconditioned lane oiler 3 years ago.

    Bill O'Neal mentions all the 220, 230 averages on house oil, and the false sense of grander those blowers have about HOW GOOD A BOWLER THEY THIK THEY ARE.
    Put then on a PBA Sports shot, most couldn't' hit 200. Good point

    Maybe one of the very REASONS why there has never been a 300 game since this alley opened in 1957! WOOD,,,, the real Old school test of a bowlers skills... and the fact that they CHANGE THE PATTERN from week to week,,,, 35, 38, and 40 foot... them Salt of the Earth Farm boys like a challenge! (

    I DREAM OF BEING THE FIRST ON THIS BEAUTIFUL 6 LANE bowling alley!!!! Will Iceman be that person..... odds are very slim,,,, but I have never in my life backed down to a challenge.... IT WOOD BE a moment in my LIFE like NO OTHER!!! Other then the day I met my wife for the FIRST TIME!!
    The reason synthetic came to be was simply a matter of MONEY! MUCH cheaper, in all aspects then wood! I just hope like Lawn Tennis and clay court tennis, they don't all disappear!
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    Yes Iceman wood is more challenging. I'm not knocking wood just saying it's days are numbered and it's not as good of a lane surface as synthetic. But yes there are drawbacks to synthetic - the biggest one is the pollution of the manufacturing process. But they are far more consistent than a wood lane. That's why they switched to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mudpuppy View Post
    Yes Iceman wood is more challenging. I'm not knocking wood just saying it's days are numbered and it's not as good of a lane surface as synthetic. But yes there are drawbacks to synthetic - the biggest one is the pollution of the manufacturing process. But they are far more consistent than a wood lane. That's why they switched to them.
    In all due respect to your thoughts mud,,,, I think the MAIN reason was defiantly expense! Wood lanes are VERY labor intensive, and materials cost more.

    synthetic lanes I was told come in sections and take a heck of a lot less time to install. ( what I have been told, I need to do some research on that).

    I am not sure the reason they came up with synthetic was to make our bowling easier, or to even give us higher scores. ( that was just a goodie that came with the cheaper package, and much less maintenance!

    Challenging, mud is what bowling should be, not so damn easy.... Look at what I did,,, on synthetic... last year?? "I'ts NOT right Mud!!" LOL

    I started bowling at 62,,, then sanctioned leagues at 63... even my first year I have the high scratch trophy on my mantle place of 298!
    That CRAZY,,, bowing a 298 my first year.... I think I even posted a picture of it.

    I tell you what Mud,,,, I am REALLY looking forward to bowling on wood! I am going to join that league, and see if I can do some great scores.

    Any advice as to how to play them would be appreciated, maybe even brand or type of ball.

    This is going to be ONE HELL OF AND ADVENTURE.... I can't hardly WAIT to see how it all turns out, and make some new friends in Plattsburg!!
    They don't bowl for MONEY,,, WHICH I LIKE!! They bowl for the love of sport, and their league fee's are only 8 bucks a night!
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