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    This is a little bit of a different type of question than what most are probably use to. The summer league team I am bowling on has a husband and wife on the team who work and the bowling alley as well. The wife has known where I work and has known I sell cars at this particular dealership since I started bowling back in February. Recently, these two members of my team came to the dealership where I work, knowing I work here and purchased two vehicles from another salesperson. This took food out of my kids mouths. Also, recently the wife has been very rude to my niece on open bowling night. These two instances have severely rubbed me the wrong way and am debating on how to handle it. I have been bowling like crap the past few weeks in league but have recently started bowling well again in practice sessions. Should I continue to bowl bad on purpose to take money away from them like they did me or should I just cancel my membership at the bowling alley once the league season is over. Obviously, me bowling in this league is not doing me any good even though I paid for the usbc membership and paid for my scores to be sanctioned. I have been searching for my membership card as well as my name to show up under the usbc membership search and have not found my name yet. What should I do?

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    Personally I'd just find another alley if you have one close. It sounds like they aren't really respectful of you... if you feel like it, you could tell them that when you cancel everything from there (I probably would - no one likes to lose a customer and they might learn a thing or 2). I wouldn't bowl poorly on purpose though, does you no good and you might as well enjoy yourself as much as you can the rest of the way. The only way I think you could take money away from them directly would be to just stop showing up and that can have some negative repurcussions for you too (aside from being a jerk move).

    As for the USBC info I think it takes awhile for anything to come up on the site, but you should have a temporary membership slip that came with the application when you filled it out and paid?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TotallyDefiant View Post
    This is a little bit of a different type of question than what most are probably use to. The summer league team I am bowling on has a husband and wife on the team who work and the bowling alley as well. The wife has known where I work and has known I sell cars at this particular dealership since I started bowling back in February. Recently, these two members of my team came to the dealership where I work, knowing I work here and purchased two vehicles from another salesperson. This took food out of my kids mouths. Also, recently the wife has been very rude to my niece on open bowling night. These two instances have severely rubbed me the wrong way and am debating on how to handle it. I have been bowling like crap the past few weeks in league but have recently started bowling well again in practice sessions. Should I continue to bowl bad on purpose to take money away from them like they did me or should I just cancel my membership at the bowling alley once the league season is over. Obviously, me bowling in this league is not doing me any good even though I paid for the usbc membership and paid for my scores to be sanctioned. I have been searching for my membership card as well as my name to show up under the usbc membership search and have not found my name yet. What should I do?
    Totally you have two very different things in this post

    #1. They are in no way responsible for using you to purchase their car. Maybe they have had a prior relationship with the other person they bought from. Maybe they don't like mixing pleasure (bowling) with Business (car buying). Its possible they just don't really like you that's their business and none of yours. Your bowling teammates not family.

    #2. Being rude to your niece. This you have right to be upset about there is no excuse for acting rude with your clientele. I would talk with her about this and find out what the issue was and let her know it is not acceptable.

    I have been in sales most of my life and I know situations like that hurt but I also know that I have around ten clients who sale cars I have 30 clients who are realtors I really don't need 29 pissed off people because I chose someone else out of the 30 to sell my home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amyers View Post
    Totally you have two very different things in this post

    #1. They are in no way responsible for using you to purchase their car. Maybe they have had a prior relationship with the other person they bought from. Maybe they don't like mixing pleasure (bowling) with Business (car buying). Its possible they just don't really like you that's their business and none of yours. Your bowling teammates not family.

    #2. Being rude to your niece. This you have right to be upset about there is no excuse for acting rude with your clientele. I would talk with her about this and find out what the issue was and let her know it is not acceptable.

    I have been in sales most of my life and I know situations like that hurt but I also know that I have around ten clients who sale cars I have 30 clients who are realtors I really don't need 29 pissed off people because I chose someone else out of the 30 to sell my home.
    #1 I have no need to expand on what I have said thus far concerning them buying the car.

    #2 No being rude to my niece is definitely not acceptable.

    #3 I have been in sales for a long time myself and I understand how the sales game works with all customers. There is a common courtesy among friends though that if you are going to purchase a vehicle but not amongst friends you go to a different dealership. So no offense meant to you by this statement but as long as I have been in the business I was not asking if you thought they were in the right or not for purchasing from a different salesperson. I was not asking if somebody thought whether or not they did not want to mix business with pleasure. Common courtesy amongst friends goes a long way. However, Thank you for your expert SALES advise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mc_runner View Post
    Personally I'd just find another alley if you have one close. It sounds like they aren't really respectful of you... if you feel like it, you could tell them that when you cancel everything from there (I probably would - no one likes to lose a customer and they might learn a thing or 2). I wouldn't bowl poorly on purpose though, does you no good and you might as well enjoy yourself as much as you can the rest of the way. The only way I think you could take money away from them directly would be to just stop showing up and that can have some negative repurcussions for you too (aside from being a jerk move).

    As for the USBC info I think it takes awhile for anything to come up on the site, but you should have a temporary membership slip that came with the application when you filled it out and paid?
    Well that is easier said than done considering both alleys in my area are owned by the same people and all of the employees rotate back and forth between the two. Decisions decisions.

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    I have a similar issue...stated in another thread.

    I have a feeling that a "rift" has developed between me and another teammate and since he's made no effort to apologize...I'm assuming we'll just keep playing on the same team and not really speaking to one another. But obviously we won't be teammates should our employer field another team.

    It sucks. Bowling is usually so much fun and to have a person in your LEAGUE that you don't get along with is bad enough...but on your TEAM can be unbearable.

    Not sure about the car thing. I can see how it made the OP upset. IF they knew he worked there and they were looking for a car...it seems like a real slight...not to mention stupid on their part because having a good relationship with a car dealer salesman usually can result in a pretty good deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TotallyDefiant View Post
    This is a little bit of a different type of question than what most are probably use to. The summer league team I am bowling on has a husband and wife on the team who work and the bowling alley as well. The wife has known where I work and has known I sell cars at this particular dealership since I started bowling back in February. Recently, these two members of my team came to the dealership where I work, knowing I work here and purchased two vehicles from another salesperson. This took food out of my kids mouths. Also, recently the wife has been very rude to my niece on open bowling night. These two instances have severely rubbed me the wrong way and am debating on how to handle it. I have been bowling like crap the past few weeks in league but have recently started bowling well again in practice sessions. Should I continue to bowl bad on purpose to take money away from them like they did me or should I just cancel my membership at the bowling alley once the league season is over. Obviously, me bowling in this league is not doing me any good even though I paid for the usbc membership and paid for my scores to be sanctioned. I have been searching for my membership card as well as my name to show up under the usbc membership search and have not found my name yet. What should I do?
    i had similar issue with the owner of the alley nearest to my home, we had been teammates in the passed and always got along great, but when i bought one ball off of bowlingball.com he had a major melt down and refused to drill my ball. i now travel 30+ miles to bowl when i could only walk 2 blocks. it sucks and honestly i would take the "when the kitchen gets hot, get out" approach to this situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TotallyDefiant View Post
    #1 I have no need to expand on what I have said thus far concerning them buying the car.

    #2 No being rude to my niece is definitely not acceptable.

    #3 I have been in sales for a long time myself and I understand how the sales game works with all customers. There is a common courtesy among friends though that if you are going to purchase a vehicle but not amongst friends you go to a different dealership. So no offense meant to you by this statement but as long as I have been in the business I was not asking if you thought they were in the right or not for purchasing from a different salesperson. I was not asking if somebody thought whether or not they did not want to mix business with pleasure. Common courtesy amongst friends goes a long way. However, Thank you for your expert SALES advise.
    Totally I wasn't trying to give you sales advice. I was trying to make the argument that you were making too big a deal of their car buying choice. Wasn't trying to be offensive to you in the least way I understand being upset about their choice but at the end of the day these people really are your friends I would value their friendship more than two car sales.

    You tanking on your team should not be an option. If you feel you cannot coexist with them to the end of the season find a replacement for yourself and quit. Tanking is bad sportsmanship prove your the bigger man and move on.

    On you comment about shopping at a different dealership maybe but I will say if I didn't shop at every dealership that I knew multiple people at in my town I would have to go quite a long ways to purchase my cars maybe your city is bigger than mine and it wouldn't be a problem there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amyers View Post
    Totally I wasn't trying to give you sales advice. I was trying to make the argument that you were making too big a deal of their car buying choice. Wasn't trying to be offensive to you in the least way I understand being upset about their choice but at the end of the day these people really are your friends I would value their friendship more than two car sales.

    You tanking on your team should not be an option. If you feel you cannot coexist with them to the end of the season find a replacement for yourself and quit. Tanking is bad sportsmanship prove your the bigger man and move on.

    On you comment about shopping at a different dealership maybe but I will say if I didn't shop at every dealership that I knew multiple people at in my town I would have to go quite a long ways to purchase my cars maybe your city is bigger than mine and it wouldn't be a problem there.
    Trust me man. It's just simply the principalities of the matter. I do not care who they purchase their vehicle from but coming to my place of work after visiting with me and getting me to tell them how to trade out of a vehicle that they are super upside down in is a big time slap in the face. But whatever, I will finish my season and then move on to a different league without them. My membership at this house will soon be terminated as well. Given this a lot of thought and quite frankly I would rather have the money to play a round of golf instead of unlimited bowling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TotallyDefiant View Post
    instead of unlimited bowling.
    ewww there are very few things i would sacrifice for unlimited bowling, golf is not one of them. good luck man, i hope you find a team that fits you.

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