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    Aslan: It seems that you are getting a little confused again between a sport shot and a house shot. House shots are walled. Sport shots, by definition are not. While a sport shot may be short in length, the short patterns normally have the largest volumes of oil for the length that it goes. The idea is to use that volume of oil on the outside to try and propel the ball far enough down the lane to keep it from overhooking. The idea is different on a sport shot than it is on a house shot. If, for instance, you were to find a shot with more oil on the outside than on the inside as you referred to in your post, you wouldn't move out, you would move in to avoid the oil on the outside. With your limited experience in your short bowling career, I'd suggest you be very careful about challenging other bowlers to matches on any kind of pattern... just sayin'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aslan View Post
    I don't see how he can move right unless it's a blocked pattern. Or a pattern where they put more oil outside than inside. Isn't going to be too dry outside...causing the ball to hook earlier?

    I'm not familiar with the 36'Kegal. But from what I've seen of Kegal patterns, they are just modified house patterns; they aren't blocked (like the Wolf). With the Wolf...you only have 1 board of dry on the outside....I thought the Kegal patterns start losing oil volume after the first 15ft?? The only short Kegal pattern I've seen is the Broadway which I think is 37ft...but typical in ratio/shape. The only 36ft Kegal patterns are those weird Teen Masters patterns...and I think those are just weird "skill challenges" or something like that.

    But I digress....my point is...at that rev rate and pattern length...if the pattern isn't blocked like the Wolf...I don't think the outside shot will stay outside long enough. And if he's talking about that Teen Masters pattern...there's no way not to use a urethane or plastic ball...and even then he might go left.

    What I do think...is he should bowl against me before he figures it out. Cuz I'd kick BUTT on a short, dry pattern.
    In general he needs to do what we try to avoid he wants to burn the ball up a little to reduce his hook. He has the speed and revs to spare we don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobLV1 View Post
    Aslan: It seems that you are getting a little confused again between a sport shot and a house shot. House shots are walled. Sport shots, by definition are not. While a sport shot may be short in length, the short patterns normally have the largest volumes of oil for the length that it goes. The idea is to use that volume of oil on the outside to try and propel the ball far enough down the lane to keep it from overhooking.

    This should help illustrate

    this is a comparison of a houseshot vs the Boardwalk pattern the OP mentioned



    Note how much more oil there is outside on boardwalk compared to the ths


    Here's a good BTM article to read also:

    Click for Staying lined up, Part 3 Navigating short oil
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amyers View Post
    In general he needs to do what we try to avoid he wants to burn the ball up a little to reduce his hook. He has the speed and revs to spare we don't.
    How would I go about burning the ball up? Since you guys are saying to play the outside of the lane, I tried that last week at league and the ball would either hit the 3-6 or hit the 7. Please explain as to how I would play the outside...

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    What about also adding some surface to an existing ball to cause it to loose some energy sooner and cut down the overreaction

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormed1 View Post
    What about also adding some surface to an existing ball to cause it to loose some energy sooner and cut down the overreaction
    With the amount of revs he throws, extra friction from surface doesn't reduce the ball's energy level much.

    If he can't purchase a urethane ball, the next best thing is to use the T-Zone and struggle with carry, rather than struggle with massive over hook.

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    Less Revs = problem solved

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobLV1 View Post
    With your limited experience in your short bowling career, I'd suggest you be very careful about challenging other bowlers to matches on any kind of pattern... just sayin'.
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    ouch Rob that was kind of a D*ck move towards Aslan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaneshu87 View Post
    ouch Rob that was kind of a D*ck move towards Aslan
    Rob is a "tough love" kinda guy. So is MWhite. Which unfortunately means putting them both in a chat room together would be like 2 cats on speed in a burlap sack.

    Me, on the other hand...I tend to have a very thick skin and can dish out as good as I get. So, no worries.

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