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    I'm sure that Aslan did not take offense to my statement. As his sometimes coach, we have actually met and have a little bit more of an understanding of our unique personalities as they relate to real life, and not just as on-line personas.

    As far as many of the other entries in this thread, there seems to be an overall confusion about the differences between a sport shot and a house shot (league shot). A house shot is dry on the outside by definition. When you set the ball down outside of the oil line (usually 10 board), it immediately encounters friction and stops skidding sooner, and begins to hook. Once the ball begins to hook, it begins the process that ends with it losing power. It's kind of like jumping off of a bridge; once you jump, there's no going back. You're not dead until you hit bottom, but hitting the bottom is inevitable once you jump. A sport shot that is short in length like the Wolf or the Cheetah, is not dry on the outside and has as much, if not more oil than is on the center part of the lane on a house shot. The idea of playing the outside part of the lane on a short sport shot is to use the volume of oil to get the ball as far outside as possible because it is going to hook early, and early hook = lots of hook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aslan View Post
    Rob is a "tough love" kinda guy. So is MWhite. Which unfortunately means putting them both in a chat room together would be like 2 cats on speed in a burlap sack.

    Me, on the other hand...I tend to have a very thick skin and can dish out as good as I get. So, no worries.
    I'd pay real money to see that...

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    I'd pay real money to see that...
    I took over a spot in a Summer Vegas league for someone who is injured.

    That event just might be possible in the near future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike White View Post
    I took over a spot in a Summer Vegas league for someone who is injured.

    That event just might be possible in the near future.
    LOL -- I meant the thing about two cats on speed in a bag! But a showdown between you two would be worth money too. Too bad I live so far away!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aslan View Post
    Less Revs = problem solved
    That's my problem... I can increase but have a really hard time decreasing... And league is today and I said the wrong pattern. It is Kegel Los Angeles

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike White View Post
    I took over a spot in a Summer Vegas league for someone who is injured.

    That event just might be possible in the near future.
    Aslan---tries to locate a burlap sack...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobLV1 View Post
    I'm sure that Aslan did not take offense to my statement. As his sometimes coach, we have actually met and have a little bit more of an understanding of our unique personalities as they relate to real life, and not just as on-line personas.

    As far as many of the other entries in this thread, there seems to be an overall confusion about the differences between a sport shot and a house shot (league shot). A house shot is dry on the outside by definition. When you set the ball down outside of the oil line (usually 10 board), it immediately encounters friction and stops skidding sooner, and begins to hook. Once the ball begins to hook, it begins the process that ends with it losing power. It's kind of like jumping off of a bridge; once you jump, there's no going back. You're not dead until you hit bottom, but hitting the bottom is inevitable once you jump. A sport shot that is short in length like the Wolf or the Cheetah, is not dry on the outside and has as much, if not more oil than is on the center part of the lane on a house shot. The idea of playing the outside part of the lane on a short sport shot is to use the volume of oil to get the ball as far outside as possible because it is going to hook early, and early hook = lots of hook.
    AMEN Rob, seriously the amount of people that bowl in my usual THS league that don't know what a lane that has no dry on the edges feels like is ridiculous. For fun I had my local house oil up the badger pattern, my teammate who has been bowling on league since he was in high school, only THS shots, got PISSED when he started throwing shots. He was like "dude, you had them **** up the lanes somehow" and I was all like, no "I had them oil it in a way the pros have to shoot on"....WELL, he was humbled

    EDIT: This was on a fun open bowling night, not league

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aslan View Post
    Aslan---tries to locate a burlap sack...
    Oh, goody! <rubs hands, maniacal gleam comes into eyes>

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    Quote Originally Posted by tmacfanmike View Post
    That's my problem... I can increase but have a really hard time decreasing... And league is today and I said the wrong pattern. It is Kegel Los Angeles
    Hmm... doesn't unloading the wrist and keeping behind/under the ball create more roll/less rev?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tmacfanmike View Post
    That's my problem... I can increase but have a really hard time decreasing... And league is today and I said the wrong pattern. It is Kegel Los Angeles
    Los Angles is a foot longer than the other pattern and a higher oil volume.

    Here's the pattern:
    click for WTBA-Los-Angeles.pdf

    Mo on Los Angles:
    "I use this pattern in some of my demos included in my seminars. It is the easiest of the WTBA short patterns. I see a lot of the posts talk about how hard this pattern is. If that's the case, the other WTBA short patterns will be impossible. Sydney is the toughest of the short WTBA patterns. The complicating issues on all the short patterns are lane topography and the condition of the lane machine, especially the cleaning section."
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