modern release cuz of reactive resin

[Amyers]

On a THS, it would depend, I'd think, on how bad the carry-down was.

During leagues I don't see much carry down usually that is after open bowling when you've had a bunch of people throwing plastic balls down the middle I see that not so much of that on league.

Sometimes on our league nights the weather or something just goes wrong and it seems that if you miss any right the ball over hooks and comes high and if you miss left the ball just doesn't turn over and come back to the pocket. I would think it was just me but usually when i see this everybody is struggling with the same problem. I believe they call it wet/dry.

[rv driver]

During leagues I don't see much carry down usually that is after open bowling when you've had a bunch of people throwing plastic balls down the middle I see that not so much of that on league.

Sometimes on our league nights the weather or something just goes wrong and it seems that if you miss any right the ball over hooks and comes high and if you miss left the ball just doesn't turn over and come back to the pocket. I would think it was just me but usually when i see this everybody is struggling with the same problem. I believe they call it wet/dry.

Yep. I've seen some of that, too.

[RobLV1]

It's called humidity! When the weather is humid, it causes the excess moisture to settle on the oil making it more viscous. The oil skids more, and that makes the friction seem more reactive. So when you're in the oil, you get more skid, and when you hit the friction, the difference is greater so it seems like the ball is hooking more. When the lanes get wet/dry you have two choices: play the wet or play the dry. The oil line becomes out of bounds.

[Aslan]

It seems to me that, with reactive balls/rev-dominant shooting, accuracy is less of an issue than it is for a straight-up-the-boards player. It seems like the balls in that scenario really do a good job of compensating for lack of precision.

High rev players play the break point "area" and you're right…precision isn't as important as release because as long as they hit that "area"; the ball has an advantageous angle and roll to the pocket.

But for strokers, lower rev players, and/or speed dominant players…precision is the #1 factor in determining success because the angle into the pocket isn't as optimal…so small misses result in non-strikes. And as the patterns become more difficult, the precision becomes that much more important. For example:

For me;

- wood lanes, dry outside- I have 2-3 boards of miss to the left and up to 6 boards miss to the right and I can still hit the pocket.
- drier synthetics- I have 1-2 boards miss area to the left and 2-3 boards miss area to the right and can still hit the pocket.
- medium oil- I have about 1 board miss area to the left and 1-2 boards to the right to still hit the pocket.
- heavy oil or long sport patterns- I have maybe 1 board left or right of miss area.

So why not just be a 2-handed bowler or cranker? Get that "area" instead of trying to thread the needle? Well, because every style has it's pluses and minuses. The more you rely on revs and lane surface, the more negative effects you can have on your ball movement. Why do Belmo and Osku struggle on shorter patterns, yet seem dominant on longer patterns?

"Can" I generate more revs and play the "break point" game? Sure. With reduced accuracy. How many guys do you see during league play that when they are "on"…and striking…they seem unbeatable? But when they don't strike they struggle to make spares? I see those guys ALL the time. Thats why I try to tell people that are in love with the 2-handed game…it isn't as easy as it looks. Belmo is a "rare" case…most 2-handers don't have the total game package that allows them to adjust and make spares, etc...But I make the conscious effort to focus most on accuracy. It helps my spare shooting and it gives me some "time" to work on my release so that maybe "someday" I can throw with more revs AND accuracy. Maybe.

Or plan B I find the "gift".

[Amyers]

High rev players play the break point "area" and you're right…precision isn't as important as release because as long as they hit that "area"; the ball has an advantageous angle and roll to the pocket.

But for strokers, lower rev players, and/or speed dominant players…precision is the #1 factor in determining success because the angle into the pocket isn't as optimal…so small misses result in non-strikes. And as the patterns become more difficult, the precision becomes that much more important. For example:

For me;

- wood lanes, dry outside- I have 2-3 boards of miss to the left and up to 6 boards miss to the right and I can still hit the pocket.
- drier synthetics- I have 1-2 boards miss area to the left and 2-3 boards miss area to the right and can still hit the pocket.
- medium oil- I have about 1 board miss area to the left and 1-2 boards to the right to still hit the pocket.
- heavy oil or long sport patterns- I have maybe 1 board left or right of miss area.

So why not just be a 2-handed bowler or cranker? Get that "area" instead of trying to thread the needle? Well, because every style has it's pluses and minuses. The more you rely on revs and lane surface, the more negative effects you can have on your ball movement. Why do Belmo and Osku struggle on shorter patterns, yet seem dominant on longer patterns?

"Can" I generate more revs and play the "break point" game? Sure. With reduced accuracy. How many guys do you see during league play that when they are "on"…and striking…they seem unbeatable? But when they don't strike they struggle to make spares? I see those guys ALL the time. Thats why I try to tell people that are in love with the 2-handed game…it isn't as easy as it looks. Belmo is a "rare" case…most 2-handers don't have the total game package that allows them to adjust and make spares, etc...But I make the conscious effort to focus most on accuracy. It helps my spare shooting and it gives me some "time" to work on my release so that maybe "someday" I can throw with more revs AND accuracy. Maybe.

Or plan B I find the "gift".

Yeah I have 2 two handers that are okay on my Friday night league when they are on they ca put some impressive scores up but when they are not striking they have serious issues.i don't know Belmo seems to be a one in a million type player I don't really feel the need for a style that is more inconsistent than me.

[rv driver]

It's called humidity! When the weather is humid, it causes the excess moisture to settle on the oil making it more viscous. The oil skids more, and that makes the friction seem more reactive. So when you're in the oil, you get more skid, and when you hit the friction, the difference is greater so it seems like the ball is hooking more. When the lanes get wet/dry you have two choices: play the wet or play the dry. The oil line becomes out of bounds.

I need to just have you move next door to me, so I can milk you for advice all the time.

[rv driver]

High rev players play the break point "area" and you're right…precision isn't as important as release because as long as they hit that "area"; the ball has an advantageous angle and roll to the pocket.

But for strokers, lower rev players, and/or speed dominant players…precision is the #1 factor in determining success because the angle into the pocket isn't as optimal…so small misses result in non-strikes. And as the patterns become more difficult, the precision becomes that much more important. For example:

For me;

- wood lanes, dry outside- I have 2-3 boards of miss to the left and up to 6 boards miss to the right and I can still hit the pocket.
- drier synthetics- I have 1-2 boards miss area to the left and 2-3 boards miss area to the right and can still hit the pocket.
- medium oil- I have about 1 board miss area to the left and 1-2 boards to the right to still hit the pocket.
- heavy oil or long sport patterns- I have maybe 1 board left or right of miss area.

So why not just be a 2-handed bowler or cranker? Get that "area" instead of trying to thread the needle? Well, because every style has it's pluses and minuses. The more you rely on revs and lane surface, the more negative effects you can have on your ball movement. Why do Belmo and Osku struggle on shorter patterns, yet seem dominant on longer patterns?

"Can" I generate more revs and play the "break point" game? Sure. With reduced accuracy. How many guys do you see during league play that when they are "on"…and striking…they seem unbeatable? But when they don't strike they struggle to make spares? I see those guys ALL the time. Thats why I try to tell people that are in love with the 2-handed game…it isn't as easy as it looks. Belmo is a "rare" case…most 2-handers don't have the total game package that allows them to adjust and make spares, etc...But I make the conscious effort to focus most on accuracy. It helps my spare shooting and it gives me some "time" to work on my release so that maybe "someday" I can throw with more revs AND accuracy. Maybe.

Or plan B I find the "gift".

Well, I've been a stroker, up-the-boards player for years. Guess I'll stick with the precision game.

[Hammer]

Not to get off the subject but doesn't Aslan look like John Goodman from the Roseann show where he plays her husband Dan?

[rv driver]

Not to get off the subject but doesn't Aslan look like John Goodman from the Roseann show where he plays her husband Dan?

At least he doesn't look like Roseann...

[Shaneshu87]

Not to get off the subject but doesn't Aslan look like John Goodman from the Roseann show where he plays her husband Dan?

that is a picture of John Goodman from a scene taken from "The Big Lebowsky" a very iconic bowling movie...