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    Quote Originally Posted by RobLV1 View Post
    You missed the key word: A ball played the oil will APPEAR to hook less. A ball played in too much friction WILL hook less. Big difference!
    Only with a very tortured definition of "hook less" could this be true.

    A ball too much in the oil WILL hook less, a ball too much in the dry WILL hook more (but too soon) then straighten out.

    Personally, if I get the ball too much into the oil, I'm likely to leave a 2-4-5-8, but if I get the ball far enough out into the dry to make contact with the headpin in the same location, I'm likely to leave a 2-10.

    Those are dramatically different amounts of hook.

    But then again, I put enough hand in the ball that it is more likely to hook into the left gutter than roll out,

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    Quote Originally Posted by MICHAEL View Post
    I can't wait for VEGAS!!!

    I bowled with the legendary Pat Henderson yesterday and ask him a bunch of bowling questions! Have you ever had a coaching lesson,,, reply: NO

    What mark do you aim at when releasing the ball? Answer: I just look at a general area, no specific spot!

    He knows how to move left, right, up, and back, but its no rocket science to him! HE HAS THE GIFT, without a doubt!
    I tend to think he has adopted that "general area" due to the modern oil patterns, and balls.

    Ask him if he just looked at a general area back in the 70-80's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike White View Post
    I tend to think he has adopted that "general area" due to the modern oil patterns, and balls.

    Ask him if he just looked at a general area back in the 70-80's.
    I will see, him Friday,,, will ask that question! I might ask him to come to Vegas with me,,, but the problem would be I want to ride my bike, and he just wouldn't look hot enough to be sitting behind me on my Goldwing!!

    I THINK I will ask if he's interested in chewing up some west coast meat!!!! On a HOUSE PATTERN,,, any house I've seen him on he is the beast.

    I did ask his ball speed and weight of ball, Like I mentioned earlier, 16lb, and ball speed of 19mph! Pate the Beast Henderson, Funny,,,,, he calls me Animal every time I see him!! LOL We do have a good time, and like I said will be bowling this fall on his team Tuesdays at 1pm (senior league!)

    He might be a senior but he can kick but when the chips are down, on house patterns against any age bracket! He won the big 22, that AMF throws each year, 1st place 4000.00 bucks each, him and his partner. This year they got second place 3000.00 buck each. The Big 22 is a two person league at AMF"S that have a tournament for all that qualify at the end of the season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike White View Post
    I tend to think he has adopted that "general area" due to the modern oil patterns, and balls.

    Ask him if he just looked at a general area back in the 70-80's.
    Exactly.

    It's sad to see guys go out there now and throw thumbless...hitting all over God's green Earth...and they'll score 134-264-127 and they'll act like they're ready for the PBA because they've throw 2 300-games and almost thrown 4-6 more.

    The "downside" is they tend to be completely unable to pick up spares...and when the pattern changes or becomes tougher...they can barely break 160 and are more likely to throw < 120.

    It's real simple folks. Remember the movie: "The Patriot"? Remember "aim small; miss small"? It's the advice I use at the shooting range and the advice I use ion bowling. If a guy can hit a 1.5 inch spot every time...he's a pro. If he can't, he's everybody else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aslan View Post
    Exactly.

    It's sad to see guys go out there now and throw thumbless...hitting all over God's green Earth...and they'll score 134-264-127
    Is it better to put your thumb in the ball, hitting all over God's green Earth, and score 134-164-127?

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    I didn't know you were a Brunswick guy, Rob. Nice. Plan to get my mastermind genius in another week or so.
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    Probably because majority are likely throwing none other than storm/roto, as we are all sentient of that. ;p
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    I have seen myself do that several times. I know now that's a no-no.
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    I agree with Ice master on this. Versatility is pretty much the one word that summarizes his response. With versatility, makes you a better bowler.
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