Originally Posted by Aslan
didnt know that brunswick shoes weren't able to be used. I thought because brunswick already was paying i assumed that their shoes were allowed as well.
Well, thats one thing I don't agree with in terms of the PBA. If equipment is USBC certified, it should be allowed on the PBA. The PBA has a history dating back at least 35 years of restricting products to try to strong-arm companies into being sponsors and it's sad. I really like Brunswick shoes…yet if I were on the PBA I couldn't wear any shoe that isn't Dexter because Dexter paid the PBA to give them exclusive rights. Thats just stupid in my opinion.
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didnt know that brunswick shoes weren't able to be used. I thought because brunswick already was paying i assumed that their shoes were allowed as well.
Any shoes may be worn in Regional and PBA50 Competition. Only Dexter and Storm shoes may be worn in PBA National competition.
I have to say I agree. I don't like the exclusive deals either. There should be a set approval fee and anyone who pays it is eligible.
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Without the PBA's long history of "strong-arming companies into sponsorship," you would have never gotten the opportunity to see professional bowling on television. Unfortunately, tournaments have to be paid for somehow, and not too many bowling centers have the space to allow 40-50 thousand spectators to buy tickets each day like they can at professional golf tournaments.
Rob you don't think they could raise just as much money if they set the "product registration fee" or whatever you want to call it at say 1/3 of whatever the exclusive arrangement pays them and then they get three or 4 companies or maybe more to pay they wouldn't be better off? That is the way they do bowling balls. Can you imagine if they had an exclusive deal with Storm for bowling balls? but we pay more attention to the balls and people would have a fit.
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See, thats the thing. They intentionally don't do it with balls because it would end up killing the PBA. The ball company sponsors all pay their fees (except Lane Masters and Lord Field and smaller ones like that) which allows them to all have their sponsored players participate, promote their balls, etc… The PBA would never go 'exclusive' on balls.
Even Amateur tournaments don't do that and many of them are sponsored by one ball company. They try to 'encourage' you to buy and throw the sponsor's balls by offering large bonus $$$ if you in fact win and are wearing their shirts, shoes, and throwing their balls. And it in some cases is quite significant (in the range of $1000-$1500). But most times it's in the $50-$150 range.
But I agree with Amyers….I think if each company pays a small product registration fee for each type of product (balls, shoes, inserts, etc…) it would allow more manufacturers to become sponsors…and actually grow the sport. I think thats preferable to just taking essentially a 'bribe' from Dexter to pretty much discourage any tournament level player from wearing any other company's shoe. What's next? The players have to be insured through Geico, stay at a Motel 6, use odor eaters inserts, and only eat at Denny's the whole time they are participating in the Summer King of Swing??
For Lane Masters and Lord Field and Seismic…thats on them though. They simply don't want to invest that money into that type of advertising. And I don't think it's just the fees. You have to remember that as soon as they pay the fee and their balls can be thrown…they now need to sponsor players to throw them. Things can start getting expensive pretty fast…especially for companies that have such a small footprint that I've never even seen their products in pro shops.
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Ball Speed: 14.7mph; Rev. Rate: 240rpm || High Game (sanc.) = 300 (268); High Series (sanc.) = 725 (720); Clean Games: 198
Smokey this is not 'Nam', this is bowling. There are rules. Proud two-time winner of a bowlingboards.com weekly ball give-away!
The PBA has done some shady S for along time. But back on subject I pick a ball based on my style of play. Then I pick a drilling for it to match up with the type of oil patter we play on. As I get better and start doing tournaments I'll have to buy some more equipment. And tighten up on leaning what balls and what lay outs work best for me on other oil patterns. You can always double up.
Storm Crux has a pomegranate scent... I don't know what other criteria you need here folks....
Never thought I'd say this...but gotta agree with dhoff here.
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