HIGH to Low TRACK

[Shaneshu87]

Thanks Bowl everything takes work. I know they still teach the underhand spiral thing in our kids leagues so that's most likely where I picked it up. (still the same coaches) twenty years later. I'll experiment some and see what I come up with. I would say the overturning and finger rotation are where I have the issue.

yeah same here in our youth leagues, but i have actually brought them in a basketball last week and started showing kids the similarities between rolling the basket ball and rolling a bowling ball.

[RobLV1]

Here's how I raised my track several years ago: I took a golf glove for my right hand and cut off the thumb and the ring finger. I left the middle finger in place on the glove. I then took a practice ball and replaced the grip in the middle finger hole with a larger one to fit the glove. Every time I practiced for the next year, I used that ball and learned to lead with the ring finger and feel the pressure there.

As to the reason that balls with less axis tilt tend to hook earlier has to do with the physics of the ball motion. The ball is skidding in one direction, and will continue to go in that direction until the energy from the rotation of the ball becomes equal to the energy of the forward motion, and then the ball starts to hook. With little axis tilt, the forward motion of the rotation on the ball is going in the same direction as the forward motion of the ball, so the energies become equal more quickly and the ball starts hooking sooner. This is only a problem if you try to play to much in the friction. If you learn to play in the oil, the forward roll becomes an advantage.

[Amyers]

Here's how I raised my track several years ago: I took a golf glove for my right hand and cut off the thumb and the ring finger. I left the middle finger in place on the glove. I then took a practice ball and replaced the grip in the middle finger hole with a larger one to fit the glove. Every time I practiced for the next year, I used that ball and learned to lead with the ring finger and feel the pressure there.

As to the reason that balls with less axis tilt tend to hook earlier has to do with the physics of the ball motion. The ball is skidding in one direction, and will continue to go in that direction until the energy from the rotation of the ball becomes equal to the energy of the forward motion, and then the ball starts to hook. With little axis tilt, the forward motion of the rotation on the ball is going in the same direction as the forward motion of the ball, so the energies become equal more quickly and the ball starts hooking sooner. This is only a problem if you try to play to much in the friction. If you learn to play in the oil, the forward roll becomes an advantage.

You're correct about playing in the oil I tend to score better if I keep the ball inside the second arrow but sometimes the lanes don't set up that way. One of the reasons I have been looking at this is from trying to play farther inside and open more of the lanes to myself. It seems to me from watching other high average bowlers who play for lack of a better term more up the back of the ball in our house their ball rolls with a natural movement to the right at least it seems that way to me. I see there ball leave their hand down their intended line but it seems like the ball has a certain amount of roll to the right also. I don't have that my ball goes down my intended line and then starts to hook. When I try to play lines farther left than the third arrow my ball seems to start to hook before it gets to where I want it to on the lane and never makes it far enough outside. I was really wondering if this is part of the reason I have that problem. I see some people playing shots over the 4th and 5th arrows and manage to get their balls out to the ten board and have them come back my ball never makes it to ten unless I put some ridiculous angle on it and then it just goes in the gutter.

[RobLV1]

Very perceptive about the roll of the ball. High rev guys who really work the inside of the ball often start the ball moving left to right. Most of the time it's tough to see, but EJ Tackett throws a ball where it's pretty aparent. The three things that determine where you have to play the lanes are the oil pattern, the topography, and the other bowlers currently or previously on the pair. This is the reason that being able to manipulate your roll comes in really handy. Personally I'm having a new and interesting experience this season. While most of the leagues in which I bowl are senior leagues where virtually everyone plays the second arrow, on Tuesday nights this year I am bowling in a scratch league with a whole lot of really high rev players. I find myself playing left of most of the traditional players, but well right of the high rev guys. At some stage of the game I reach I point where I am moving into the area where the high rev guys started. I can no longer move left, and I'm deep enough where I can't ball down too much, so changing the roll of the ball comes in really handy to get the ball down the lane and still have enough ball to get it back.

[MICHAEL]

YOU take the low track, and I'll take the high track, and will all meet at the pocket together!!! Some great advise Rob,,, yet another reason why a Coach like YOU, can help a bowlers GAME! He is a warehouse of knowledge, and a guy that can keep you on (TRACK) with your bowling game!!