fingertip inserts: oval versus lifts

[foreverincamo]

Most fingertip bowlers have inserts. Just wondering how many people here prefer the standard oval grips over the lift grips with the flat on the bottom. I have the lifts in my DV8 Marauder Mutiny, but I am seriously considering flipping them over and trying the oval side. Reason being my fingers fluctuate in size so much that I would be able to shim the ovals more uniformly and tighten them up. What do you all prefer?

[Blacksox1]

Ovals, all day long. Middle finger @45 degrees, ring finger normal.

[striker12]

I use to use power lift grips but my middle finger started to hurt so then I wanted to try ovals it took some time to get use to but over time I was able to control my bowling ball better and still have the same amount of revs, I know this because I did a test 1 ball with oval other with power lifts, 1 thing I did notice change when I went to ovals I was able to slow my speed down a lot easyer then I could with lifts.

so then I went and did another test bigger power lifts just to tape to close then up to fit properly because when i looked at the bigger sizes they look almost like ovals but you can see the lift area so i tried these out and i increases my revs with still having control on my bowling ball now just have to do this to all my bowling balls.

[Zothen]

I use the half moon or power lifts! I find it gives me more lift then the ovals!

Zothen

[RobLV1]

One of the biggest changes brought on by the introduction of modern reactive resin bowling balls is that you don't need lift to get them to hook. Between the powerful covers and the dynamic cores, these balls hook all by themselves. Lift just gives you a more inconsistent reaction. I'd really like to see the lift side of the inserts eliminated altogether, just so bowlers aren't even tempted to use that side.

[MICHAEL]

One of the biggest changes brought on by the introduction of modern reactive resin bowling balls is that you don't need lift to get them to hook. Between the powerful covers and the dynamic cores, these balls hook all by themselves. Lift just gives you a more inconsistent reaction. I'd really like to see the lift side of the inserts eliminated altogether, just so bowlers aren't even tempted to use that side.

OUCH!!! I had a choice of lifts or oval on the Deadly Aim you gave me... went with the Lifts! Not really sure I see the difference between the oval and the lifts??

The lifts seem to have a more comfortable feel to ICE!?

side note: ( the Deadly-Aim that I purchased does have the oval finger inserts) hummmmm! Its the one that has been giving me great scores consistently.

But is it the finger inserts, or the drilling, and maybe even the size and placement of your balance hole compared to my original Deadly-Aim? Many variables !

[vdubtx]

One of the biggest changes brought on by the introduction of modern reactive resin bowling balls is that you don't need lift to get them to hook. Between the powerful covers and the dynamic cores, these balls hook all by themselves. Lift just gives you a more inconsistent reaction. I'd really like to see the lift side of the inserts eliminated altogether, just so bowlers aren't even tempted to use that side.

Yep, totally agree. I have switched to only oval inserts in the last 18 months and it helps drastically.

[MICHAEL]

Yep, totally agree. I have switched to only oval inserts in the last 18 months and it helps drastically.

HUMMMM thanks for the info! It's nice to know a real persons experience in regards to inserts. I might have to switch the finger inserts on the ball that ( BOWLING GOD ROB), gave me to ovals.

I never would have thought that round vs flat would make such a difference... but I do bowl much higher games with my original Deadly Aim vs my latest addition with flat inserts.

hummmmm food for thought!

[Amyers]

I have never tried Oval's might have to give it a shot. I knew there were different brands I wasn't really even aware that there were different shapes.

[bowl1820]

OUCH!!! I had a choice of lifts or oval on the Deadly Aim you gave me... went with the Lifts! Not really sure I see the difference between the oval and the lifts??
!

The difference between ovals and lifts is that they add a 1/4" of forward pitch to the hole and will slightly stretch your span (unless your span has been adjusted to compensate for it.)

Given if you already have forward or reverse pitch in the holes to begin with, using them will alter that.

Example if you have a 1/4" forward pitch drilled into the holes, then use lifts you effectively now would have 1/2" of forward pitch.

INFO:
Vise Power Lifts = 1/4"
Turbo Power Ovals=3/16" (Turbo states 1/4")
Turbo Quads.........1/8"


I used Vise power lifts for years back when I started (Urethane days), then I just had the forward pitch added to the holes and went to straight ovals. The lifts wore out a lot faster.

But as time passed I got rid of the forward pitch and worked on just getting the fit right.