Real Men Bowl on Wood, World Championship ICEMAN OPEN

[MICHAEL]

Wow I take a break from Bowling and the Boards for some summer fun in the sun with the wife and look who I find when I came back. Hey IceMan still giving Em Hell I see!

"giving them HELL",,, LOL I hope not being a God now! Good to see you back bud!! Winter leagues start up this coming week for use here in this area.... later..



this applies to those who bowl with their thumbs too.... LOL

[MICHAEL]

On any given day I can have a GREAT SERIES,,, 600's, high 600's, 700's, even high 700's, my highest being the 780 with that
last 300.

Why in the heck I am not consistent is KILLING ME! I would give all my awards for a 220 league average. My highest has been only a 200, and that was a few years ago.

Sure I stared late at 62, didn't have the time to bowl much during my Iron Working years, traveling around the country putting up buildings, towers, bridges, 66, now!

What does it take to be consistent!!!!!

Sure their has been lots of talk about the lane conditions at all 3 of the houses I bowl at.

But I think it me,,, not adjusting!

One week a while back had a low 700 score, next week same league a low 500. I would like to say its focus, but I can't.

Anyone else have the HIGH GAMES and series, then turn around and bowl ICE COLD, the following week? iceman

I know a heck of a lot more now, and I am always thinking, could that be the problem! Can a person ruin a good thing with knowledge?

Like the guy that was a GREAT golfer, then took some lessons, and his game went to hell?????

[RobLV1]

On any given day I can have a GREAT SERIES,,, 600's, high 600's, 700's, even high 700's, my highest being the 780 with that
last 300.

Why in the heck I am not consistent is KILLING ME! I would give all my awards for a 220 league average. My highest has been only a 200, and that was a few years ago.

Sure I stared late at 62, didn't have the time to bowl much during my Iron Working years, traveling around the country putting up buildings, towers, bridges, 66, now!

What does it take to be consistent!!!!!

Sure their has been lots of talk about the lane conditions at all 3 of the houses I bowl at.

But I think it me,,, not adjusting!

One week a while back had a low 700 score, next week same league a low 500. I would like to say its focus, but I can't.

Anyone else have the HIGH GAMES and series, then turn around and bowl ICE COLD, the following week? iceman

I know a heck of a lot more now, and I am always thinking, could that be the problem! Can a person ruin a good thing with knowledge?

Like the guy that was a GREAT golfer, then took some lessons, and his game went to hell?????

I couldn't have said it any better myself!

[MICHAEL]

I couldn't have said it any better myself!

said what???? What did I say Rob!!! Now I am really confused?

Are you agreeing that knowledge can ruin a good thing? Remember my VERY FIRST year bowing a league at 62, had a 298, have the trophy on that mantle place as proof.... ( NO coaching, didn't know squat, other then just common sense related to angles).

Bowing is a game of angle, speed, drilling, and coverstock. I had geometry, 101, in school, and it indirectly along with physics, is the game of bowling in a nut shell!

BUT THE more I read about and watch instructional videos, the more erratic my game has become, thus the dropping of my averages. Super good games and series on some days, and ones I don't even want to talk about on others.

I like to blame the oil, but in the old days when I didn't know squat, I don't remember having the swings I am having NOW.

In the old days I had ONE BOLWING BALL, and made adjustments based on plain geometry!

NOW I HAVE 6 FRICKEN balls to jump around with when things aren't quit right on the lanes,,,, did I say 6 balls, in my bowling room, (ICEMAN"S Pro SHOP) I have 18 balls at this moment, with two recent purchases.

I even have the innovative ball spinner two speed, with the recycle water system.

I wonder how many out there have the same problem Iceman has,,,, ( consistency ) Plain and simple! TOO MANY BALLS, and way too much information!


I honestly think: THE REAL PROBLEM ASLAN has.... he is a deep thinker like ICE, but we can't HELP IT! It's in our DNA to analyze, and think outside of the box, in the box and around the box, too much knowledge, too many balls, and need of a dame!





He too has way to many balls, and thinks too much! Aslan just might have everything else, it takes to be a great bowler, (minus a hot chick)!

I do think if he finds a hot trashy chick, that's not too bright, has a great body, that gives him all he needs, (which isn't much other then carnal love making), his game might progress to levels higher then he even imagined. Some eye candy to take his mind off of the game of bowling, (while bowling). Does that make sense?

Are Ice, and Aslan pea's out of the same pod..... other then me being more gifted, having a woman, and better looking?

Who KNOWS,,,, maybe you know Rob?

[got_a_300]

I honestly think: THE REAL PROBLEM ASLAN has.... he is a deep thinker like ICE, but we can't HELP IT! It's in our DNA to analyze, and think outside of the box, in the box and around the box, too much knowledge, too many balls, and need of a dame!

As the old saying goes and as Randy Peterson says all the time on TV
"Paralyses through over analyses" LOL!!!!!

I wonder how many out there have the same problem Iceman has,,,, ( consistency ) Plain and simple! TOO MANY BALLS, and way too much information!

Myself for one I have 9 bowling balls at the lanes to pick from and
a few more here at home to choose from. Here lately I might shoot
a 700 series one week and come back and shoot a 450 series or less
the very next week and then a 550 to 650 series the next week.

But in my defense we do have a lane man that just doesn't care any
more from week to week if the lanes are done right or not as he is
looking for another job anyway and just doesn't care if you have any
oil on the lanes or not.

On the week(s) that he does oil them right I'll shoot a decent series
and then the next if he doesn't feel like doing them correctly I'll have
a bad series even though I try to adjust to them. It is kind of hard to
adjust to bone dry Sahara Desert dry lanes as all of my equipment is
set up for medium to heavy oil at the moment.

[RobLV1]

Michael: Look at the smiley faces I added within your text. THAT is what I couldn't have said better myself.

[Tony]

Michael: Look at the smiley faces I added within your text. THAT is what I couldn't have said better myself.

I agree..
I bowled for many years with no spare ball, just a single ball and most of the guys in the league did as well. A bunch averaged 200 plus, and I'm talking just a couple of years ago ! When there are too many balls to choose from, picking the right one for ME, is as elusive as winning the lottery.... one of the guys I bowl with often tells people stop thinking so much about it, and just go up there and throw the ball ! He has averaged over 200 for the last 8 years throwing the same one ball, one of the Inferno series. I am trading him a Vintage Gold Rhino Pro for beer, I'm interested to see how he does with that ball. I doubt he will ever get a spare ball....but maybe if I start beating him on a regular basis he might think about it !

[MICHAEL]

Bowled today on one open lane at Gladstone, with my new Red-Tank, Motiv , urethane ball. I was VERY SURPRISED at the movement! A very nice well defined ark to the pocket,, 247 best game, with it. I thought it would be a lot like a plastic ball,,, Worked great on ten pin leaves only missing one out of 8. Bowled with several other balls including my two Deadly aims!

Funny the movement that the Red-Tank has is VERY similar to the Deadly aim!

The motiv urethane ball has a VERY controllable nice steady, NOT snappy, arc! I just might use it on the synthetic house patter too.
I did have a first game of 192, then the 247.

Very happy with it!

My first urethane ball

I am looking for some good scores with it.....

Really can't wait to see what it looks like on the reconditioned wood in Plattsburg will keep you guys posted.



It's finally starting to sink in that the most powerful high dollar balls, aren't necessarily going to give you the High Scores. It's all a matter of Right ball, for the Right conditions on the lane, and the bowler.

I think where I have gone wrong is most of my balls are asymmetrical, and maybe symmetrical @ urethane need to be looked at, and explored!

The RED TANK, hits hard into the pocket.... ICEMAN LIKES!!

[Mike White]

Bowled today on one open lane at Gladstone, with my new Red-Tank, Motiv , urethane ball. I was VERY SURPRISED at the movement! A very nice well defined ark to the pocket,, 247 best game, with it. I thought it would be a lot like a plastic ball,,, Worked great on ten pin leaves only missing one out of 8. Bowled with several other balls including my two Deadly aims!

Funny the movement that the Red-Tank has is VERY similar to the Deadly aim!

The motiv urethane ball has a VERY controllable nice steady, NOT snappy, arc! I just might use it on the synthetic house patter too.
I did have a first game of 192, then the 247.

Very happy with it!

My first urethane ball

I am looking for some good scores with it.....

Really can't wait to see what it looks like on the reconditioned wood in Plattsburg will keep you guys posted.



It's finally starting to sink in that the most powerful high dollar balls, aren't necessarily going to give you the High Scores. It's all a matter of Right ball, for the Right conditions on the lane, and the bowler.

I think where I have gone wrong is most of my balls are asymmetrical, and maybe symmetrical @ urethane need to be looked at, and explored!

The RED TANK, hits hard into the pocket.... ICEMAN LIKES!!

247 with a urethane ball is more impressive than a 289 with resin.

Urethane doesn't effectively follow the oil line like resin, and if you get urethane too close to the oil, it hits like a wet paper sack.

Getting that "ark" to end up in the pocket, and carry means you threw to ball with more consistent speed, and accuracy compared to what is required for a resin ball to skid, snap, roll to the pocket.

With a resin ball the oil makes the skid part a straight line, the high friction makes the ball go into a straight roll, so the only part that is left to the bowler with a resin ball is, the short change of direction in the hook phase.

[MICHAEL]

The first league outing last Thursday was not GOOD AT ALL for ANYBODY!

I don't get it? Refinished lanes, inspected, and ready for play yet no 200 games, and many real low scores! Crazy low scores as I walked around
looking at the over head projector! 48 bowlers,,,, on that league.. I did have a few 600's last year, and a few high games, but Wow, what a crappy start for everyone this year!!!!

Is Good, Wood that much more difficult... I know my average there was a good 20 pins lower then most other synthetic places!
I must say Gladstone was tough with oil complaints last year too.... But last Thursday was like finding a pin in a haystack,,,,,,, ,, that line to the pocket with carry!

Many were complaining,,, for me it was carry,,, lots of 10 pins, even with adjustments I thought might correct the unprecedented low scores
by all!

I am beginning to think from the bottom of my godly heart that its true: REAL MEN BOWL ON WOOD!

A 700 at these lanes are almost like a 800 on the synthetic....

There are several 200 average bowlers on that league, that are in the same boat! 200's at other lanes, not Plattsburg! NO 200 averages on that league last year.

It will be interesting to see how things pan out this week! At this point in time it might be premature to say, wood is just a much tougher way to bowl high scores.