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    +1 to Rob's comments. I have taken many a polished ball to 4000 to mellow out the over/under

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormed1 View Post
    +1 to Rob's comments. I have taken many a polished ball to 4000 to mellow out the over/under

    hummmm I have had most of my high games, and series with polished ball? Only non polished is the Hyper-Cell 500/2000, its given me some good games also! Not sure about the over, under reactions with polish in MY CASE. Both of my perfect games last year were with polished balls.
    One was a symmetrical, IQ pearl, the other with a asymmetrical ball the Virtual Gravity Nanno, that had been pluged onece. If a ball is very erratic with polish you don't throw two perfect games???

    I think polish has its place, and a lot has to do with the lanes, and bowlers style! Experiment with both,,, Iceman still likes polish!

    One of the best items you can get in regards to bowling is a spinner! Then learn how to use it! It will not only save you a lot of money, but its
    a Fricken blast experimenting with ball surfaces!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobLV1 View Post
    As Mike alluded to, what makes you so certain that the difference in ball reaction is a result of changing the surface rather than the result of a different lane condition that you had for the past couple of weeks? Try this: start with the ball at 1000/4000 in practice. Bring a 2000 and a 3000 abralon pad with you. If it is not hooking enough, go over the 4000 with the 2000. If it now hooks too much, go over the 2000 with the 3000. It is not ideal, but it's certainly a good way to start, and IMHO a better option than polish.
    I took the ball in and had them do a 1000/4000 finish on it as Rob suggested. Took it and bowled with it. In short, it is behaving almost identical to the box finish I started with, which is okay. I managed to eek out a 138 and 2-156 games. Not exactly what I am capable of but at least I got the over-reaction issue taken care of. I'm still not really getting any flip on the front end; just a slow, lazy hook of just a few boards. Again, about what I started with. I'm okay with that as I'm learning something here.

    So now my question is, if I buff this thing by hand with a 3000, what is the process for doing that? Since it's not done by a machine and isn't exact, will that be an issue or doesn't it have to be exact?

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    Quote Originally Posted by axslinger View Post
    I took the ball in and had them do a 1000/4000 finish on it as Rob suggested. Took it and bowled with it. In short, it is behaving almost identical to the box finish I started with, which is okay. I managed to eek out a 138 and 2-156 games. Not exactly what I am capable of but at least I got the over-reaction issue taken care of. I'm still not really getting any flip on the front end; just a slow, lazy hook of just a few boards. Again, about what I started with. I'm okay with that as I'm learning something here.

    So now my question is, if I buff this thing by hand with a 3000, what is the process for doing that? Since it's not done by a machine and isn't exact, will that be an issue or doesn't it have to be exact?
    No, it doesn't have to be exact. You can either just go over the entire ball using medium pressure in a circular motion, or you can try to do it like the pros do which is to hold the pad in the palm of your hand supporting the weight of the ball, and rotate the ball with the opposite hand, perpendicular to the track. The only USBC stipulation is that the entire surface of the ball must be the same in terms of texture.

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    Hi all-

    Been bowling for a long time- new to this site.

    I just took my polished freeze hybrid down to 4000 because it had too much skid. The ball is more predictable and the over/under has been reduced. I find that polish and I don't mix well for the most part- I tend to remove polish and use a 3000 or 4000 Abralon to create a similar but more controllable ball motion.

    I personally don't prefer resurfacing a ball by hand- the results can be inconsistent. I bit the bullet and bought a ball spinner at the beginning of the summer and it has been awesome. I have been able to dial my entire arsenal in based on the lane conditions I normally see and my scores have been much more consistent.
    Last edited by cdolce18; 11-15-2014 at 05:44 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cdolce18 View Post
    Hi all-

    Been bowling for a long time- new to this site.

    I just took my polished freeze hybrid down to 4000 because it had too much skid. The ball is more predictable and the over/under has been reduced. I find that polish and I don't mix well for the most part- I tend to remove polish and use a 3000 or 4000 Abralon to create a similar but more controllable ball motion.

    I personally don't prefer resurfacing a ball by hand- the results can be inconsistent. I bit the bullet and bought a ball spinner at the beginning of the summer and it has been awesome. I have been able to dial my entire arsenal in based on the lane conditions I normally see and my scores have been much more consistent.
    Sounds like you're a low-rev/stroker? I think I'll hit this thing with 3000 and hopefully the ball won't go back to over-reacting. My GF is giving me "that look" and thinks I'm obsessing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by axslinger View Post
    Sounds like you're a low-rev/stroker? I think I'll hit this thing with 3000 and hopefully the ball won't go back to over-reacting. My GF is giving me "that look" and thinks I'm obsessing.
    I'm a tweener with medium-medium high revs. When I resurface I generally keep the same surface for at least 3 or 4 bowling sessions because sometimes lane conditions can vary from day to day. If I were you I would keep the 4000 for a little while and play different lines. Experiment with it. Then if the ball is still coming in weak try going to 3000.
    Last edited by cdolce18; 11-15-2014 at 07:11 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cdolce18 View Post
    I'm a tweener with medium-medium high revs. When I resurface I generally keep the same surface for at least 3 or 4 bowling sessions because sometimes lane conditions can vary from day to day. If I were you I would keep the 4000 for a little while and play different lines. Experiment with it. Then if the ball is still coming in weak try going to 3000.
    I agree about a ball spinner, but there is nothing like "tweaking" the surface by hand at the beginning of bowling to accommodate week to week differences, or pair to pair differences. Playing different lines goes without saying, however, surface changes are not designed to get to the pocket (that's a function of finding the right line), but increasing carry once you get there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobLV1 View Post
    I agree about a ball spinner, but there is nothing like "tweaking" the surface by hand at the beginning of bowling to accommodate week to week differences, or pair to pair differences. Playing different lines goes without saying, however, surface changes are not designed to get to the pocket (that's a function of finding the right line), but increasing carry once you get there.
    I agree with you. I guess the only reason I don't make the adjustments before league is because I know what I'm up against each week as I bowl on a fresh shot in one of my leagues. I definitely bring some abralon pads with me when bowling in a tourney.

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