Aslan's Weekly Chris Barnes/Joe Slowinski Statistics Nerd Thread: Part IV

[Mike White]

Technically maybe, the first time I EVER bowled was probably in the early 80's but I was a little kid and it was duckpin bowling (which I think is only a regional thing and doesn't exist in most places outside of where I grew up). After that, I maybe went bowling 10-15 times total throughout grade school/highschool/college using house balls and just trying to throw the ball as hard as I could (like a lot of open bowlers). So, I consider the start of my bowling "career" the first night of league last Fall (2013) which was something like Sept 9th last year? So we have probably been bowling about the same amount of time.


But I have no problem admitting I bowled horribly that day despite my average being as low as it was at the time, I still bowled one of my worst series ever

That said we should really discuss another SoCal tournament, maybe early next year so I can try to redeem myself

It was clear that Temecula was probably the first time you (ZDawg) encountered lanes that were oiled "inside out".

The left lane I managed to skid two shots through the back ends, and then have two shots hook left enough to both miss the head pin, and then chop the 1 off the 3.

That was conflicting information about the oil pattern.

Then I noticed the same thing on the right lane.

Too much oil to cover the 2-4-5-7-8, and too dry not to miss the 5 pin.

Aslan stayed with the "too much oil" part of the lane, since he's used to the ball skidding, and his handicap was based on him bowling on that type of situation.

I moved in to avoid as much of the puddle as possible.

Unfortunately for me, my handicap was based on conditions far more common than "inside out oil" so while I beat Aslan scratch, I couldn't overcome the handicap.

I also hadn't developed the competitive mindset where you try to win - win - win.

To me it was more of a recreational atmosphere since there wasn't any hard cash on the line.

If I had known his head was going to balloon thinking it was the most important event that ever had taken place, I would have brought a needle to pop that sucker.

[zdawg]

It was clear that Temecula was probably the first time you (ZDawg) encountered lanes that were oiled "inside out".

VERY true, I learned a lot that day as well as in my PBA experience league over the summer. My average in my THS league so far is already up 30 pins vs last season.

I moved in to avoid as much of the puddle as possible.

It wasn't until game 3 that I observed how far inside you were, and that I realized I should way in as well. I guess its no coincidence that I finally hit some strikes after making the adjustment.

To me it was more of a recreational atmosphere since there wasn't any hard cash on the line.

That it was, and for me it was a very good learning experience.

[Aslan]

That said we should really discuss another SoCal tournament, maybe early next year so I can try to redeem myself

Not sure when the Orange County BVL is yet (because their website is annoying and they wait till the last minute)...but tenatively...lets aim for either the last Saturday in Fenruary or the first Saturday in March for the "2nd Annual Billy Hardwick Memorial Aslan vs. ZDawg Southern California Invitational".

I also hadn't developed the competitive mindset where you try to win - win - win.

To me it was more of a recreational atmosphere since there wasn't any hard cash on the line.

If I had known his head was going to balloon thinking it was the most important event that ever had taken place, I would have brought a needle to pop that sucker.

Yeah. If you haven't developed a "win-win-win" mentality yet....at your advanced age...it's unlikely to develop. And if you need $$$ on the table to motivate you to perform...well, thats just sad. Your motivation SHOULD be...that if you lose...Iceman will spend the entire year reminding you that you lost to Aslan...AND you'll have to come up with more imaginary lane condition reasons why. It'll be exhausting!!

It wasn't until game 3 that I observed how far inside you were, and that I realized I should way in as well. I guess its no coincidence that I finally hit some strikes after making the adjustment.


That it was, and for me it was a very good learning experience.

Don't give him a big head. For ME...once I realized how horrible a bowler Mike is...my secret to success was to NOT watch him at all. Had I watched him...I'd have been tempted to throw more shots in the gutter than I did...so no thank you to that!

Lets wait till the OC BVL is announced so I can make sure I don't have a conflict. Then we can pick a weekend. I suggest Cal Oaks Bowl this time in Murrieta. Very close to Temecula Lanes without the complete "Tard"ness of those lanes. I can't bowl another tournament there with cartoon network on the big screens. Not to mention I want to limit Mike's excuses by at least ONE.

And I think once we decide on a date...maybe we make a flyer...and just pass it along to some people we bowl with who are at least sort of "cool"...and who knows...maybe we go from 3 people to 6 people this year!! Mike will probably bring that ringer dude that beat the crap out of me in the sport shot league...but since this is a HANDICAP tournament...the field should be level. And Mike, don't even TRY that, "Oh...my average is barely 190" c*ap!! We fell for that with the VBT and look what happened!! Mike has a 300-game, most improved average, highest scratch pin fall, and is still getting 1 pin of handicap per game! #sandbaggasaurus

[Mike White]

Yeah. If you haven't developed a "win-win-win" mentality yet....at your advanced age...it's unlikely to develop.

Oh I had it, but 20 years away from bowling tends to change things.

AND you'll have to come up with more imaginary lane condition reasons why.


Lets wait till the OC BVL is announced so I can make sure I don't have a conflict. Then we can pick a weekend. I suggest Cal Oaks Bowl this time in Murrieta. Very close to Temecula Lanes without the complete "Tard"ness of those lanes.

Interesting how YOU have to make sure YOU don't have a conflict.

Shouldn't that be so WE can make sure WE don't have a conflict.

Also, why are my complaints about Temecula "imaginary", yet for you it's "Tard"ness is real?

And Mike, don't even TRY that, "Oh...my average is barely 190" c*ap!! We fell for that with the VBT and look what happened!! Mike has a 300-game, most improved average, highest scratch pin fall, and is still getting 1 pin of handicap per game! #sandbaggasaurus

You developed the system that is providing me that 1 pin of handicap. Had you not "re-invented" the wheel, I wouldn't get any handicap.

As for the "barely 190", I didn't say what my average was when I signed up. The numbers you used came directly from Bowl.com.

Also, I included the following line when I signed up.

"I've dropped my equipment weight to 14 lbs in an attempt to avoid elbow damage. So I expect my average will climb well above 190's."


As for the handicap, you could change it to 90% of 200.

That way I'll get 0 pins. I'm pretty sure VDubTx would be fine with that change.

I wonder how long it would take you to realize that I would lose 1 pin and you would lose 18 pins.

[Aslan]

Interesting how YOU have to make sure YOU don't have a conflict.

Shouldn't that be so WE can make sure WE don't have a conflict.

Also, why are my complaints about Temecula "imaginary", yet for you it's "Tard"ness is real?

Yes...it's be so EVERYONE can decide if tehy have a conflict. And my issues with Temecula Lanes have nothing to do with some Phantom of the Opera "Reverse Block" oiling ghost. I don't like it because it's:

1) Uncommonly hot/humid in there.
2) It's small, not enough lanes.
3) It's friggin expensive.
4) The lanes are distracting with all those stupid projection screens.

You developed the system that is providing me that 1 pin of handicap. Had you not "re-invented" the wheel, I wouldn't get any handicap.
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Dammit. Thats actually true. My quest to come up with the perfect handicap formula for a 6-month qualification round ended up giving you that darn pin. But, in my defense, I didn't realize EVERYONE would sandbag their averages. Of 17 participants, only ONE had a lower average after month 3 than their starting average.