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    Wow, you take offense to Rob????





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    Quote Originally Posted by RobLV1 View Post
    How about instead of finding a good driller and telling him or her what you want the ball to do, you find a good driller and ask him or her what ball to buy that was designed to do what you want it to do?
    Have to say I agree here. The first step is identifying what the condition is then it's picking a ball that has the correct characteristics to attack that condition lastly is picking the proper drilling and surface to fine tune the reaction. To often people try to make balls be what they want them to be and not what they were designed to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bubba809 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobLV1 View Post
    How about instead of finding a good driller and telling him or her what you want the ball to do, you find a good driller and ask him or her what ball to buy that was designed to do what you want it to do?
    This hurts my brain on too many levels.

    "instead of finding a good driller and telling him or her what you want the ball to do"

    Ok, so telling the driller what you want the ball to do is a bad thing.

    "find a good driller and ask him or her what ball to buy that was designed to do what you want it to do"

    If I'm not supposed to tell the driller what I want the ball to do, how can he/she decide what ball was designed to do what I need, but haven't told the driller?
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    Mike, you're picking nits on too many levels. I'm on your side here. I'm telling him to trust the PSO in terms of selecting a ball instead deciding on a ball based on all the wrong reasons (my friend throws one, I saw it on TV, etc.) and telling the PSO to perform magic and make the ball do something that it was not designed to do. Like usual, you are so intent on discrediting me, that you can't even see when I'm telling someone to respect what you do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike White View Post
    This hurts my brain on too many levels.

    "instead of finding a good driller and telling him or her what you want the ball to do"

    Ok, so telling the driller what you want the ball to do is a bad thing.

    "find a good driller and ask him or her what ball to buy that was designed to do what you want it to do"

    If I'm not supposed to tell the driller what I want the ball to do, how can he/she decide what ball was designed to do what I need, but haven't told the driller?
    Running a pro shop is got to be tough. Sometimes my pro shop operator tells me horror stories about customers. When you deal in customer service and retail there is always going to be problem customers. Mike, as a pro shop operator do you prefer a guy that walks in and says i want that ball and drill it with the pin here etc. or someone that says i'm looking for a ball for this type of condition and want it to do this and asks what do you suggest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fortheloveofbowling View Post
    Running a pro shop is got to be tough. Sometimes my pro shop operator tells me horror stories about customers. When you deal in customer service and retail there is always going to be problem customers. Mike, as a pro shop operator do you prefer a guy that walks in and says i want that ball and drill it with the pin here etc. or someone that says i'm looking for a ball for this type of condition and want it to do this and asks what do you suggest.
    99% of the time when a new customer comes in and asked for a ball, my first question "is when can I see you bowl?"

    By watching, I can tell what they currently have, and how it is reacting on the lane.

    Based on that information, an educated guess can be made at how other balls will react.

    Sometimes the person doesn't need a new ball, just a good cleaning of what they have.

    Other times, a simple line adjustment gets them the reaction they were hoping a new ball would get them.

    The hardest one to drill for is someone who doesn't bowl where I'm located, and I can't find a time to go see them bowl.

    For those, all I really can do is drill based on their arsenal, filling a gap that the might have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobLV1 View Post
    Mike, you're picking nits on too many levels. I'm on your side here. I'm telling him to trust the PSO in terms of selecting a ball instead deciding on a ball based on all the wrong reasons (my friend throws one, I saw it on TV, etc.) and telling the PSO to perform magic and make the ball do something that it was not designed to do. Like usual, you are so intent on discrediting me, that you can't even see when I'm telling someone to respect what you do.
    You may have noticed I highlighted the word instead.

    As a wordsmith, you shouldn't use words that mean the opposite of what you intend.

    Had you said "in addition to", things would have been much clearer.

    In another thread, you said you were writing an article titled "Bowling Lane Whisperer", or similar.

    There again, you mean something completely different than what you wrote.

    The horse whisperer (Buck Brannaman), and the dog whisperer (Cesar Millan) both change the behavior of the animal.

    Good luck changing the behavior of the lane.

    The lane is the whisperer, and the bowler is the one who's behavior needs to change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike White View Post
    You may have noticed I highlighted the word instead.

    As a wordsmith, you shouldn't use words that mean the opposite of what you intend.

    Had you said "in addition to", things would have been much clearer.

    In another thread, you said you were writing an article titled "Bowling Lane Whisperer", or similar.

    There again, you mean something completely different than what you wrote.

    The horse whisperer (Buck Brannaman), and the dog whisperer (Cesar Millan) both change the behavior of the animal.

    Good luck changing the behavior of the lane.

    The lane is the whisperer, and the bowler is the one who's behavior needs to change.
    Wow, Mike, you are truly a legend in your own mind. You not only know more about bowling than I do, you know more about writing as well, AND you know that I was wrong in my use of lane whisperer without even reading the article. You are amazing, and psychic too.

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