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    And before Mike asks...the reason I didn't break out his 290 games is that:

    1) None of his averages were sport averages (he only joined the sport league THIS season)

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    2) He bowls in like a billion leagues...so Mudpuppy would have cliff noted it.

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    3) It gives you the same result.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zdawg View Post
    Saturday March 7th looks good for me. Hopefully Randy Pedersen has enough time to adjust his schedule this year
    I was thinking of e-mailing Chris Hardwick's show and inviting him...but I don't want him using the e-mail during the show and making fun of the request. And I thought about trying to e-mail Randy Peterson as well...have him do the camera color commentary...but he's kinda grouchy sometimes and I wouldn't want him to take it as a slight and tell us to go ***k ourselves.

    Another idea is pay Mark Baker for a 3-hour lesson...+ $ 0.20/mile mileage and having him come down and do bowling critiques and commentary during the tournament. THAT would be sweet. It would be a Hall of Famer providing tournament commentary...but also we'd all be able to watch it and see what his ideas are in terms of what we're doing right or wrong...why we missed a shot, etc... Tell me that wouldn't be the coolest thing of all time!!

    Granted...that would be probably a $400 expense when it's all said and done...and thats assuming he'd even DO it...and the BIG assumption that he's not already booked that weekend at a camp or some event or giving lessons. But talk about sweet...to have Chris Hardwick bowl with us AND to have Mark Baker providing color commentary AND providing technique tips...tell me that wouldn't be a sweet Youtube video!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aslan View Post
    I'm proposing 90% of 220 just to make it fair across the board. All 3 of us now have actual sanctioned averages to work with...AS WELL AS our Virtual Bowling Tour averages!!! (sponsored in part by bowlingboards.com).

    Here are my proposed averages for myself, ZDawg, and MWhite based on 2013/2014 sanctioned averages AND the VBT averages (not counting the entering average situation). I would go out on a limb and say that "even Mike will agree these are fair"...but as Rob recently learned....that is a terrible limb to go out on!

    ASLAN: (172*12) + (166*66) + (165*66) + (173*24) + VBT (170*18) = 31,122/186 = 167. ((220-167)*0.90) = 47 pins.

    MWHITE: (199*290) + VBT (222*18) = 61706/308 = 200. ((220-200)*.90) = 18 pins.

    ZDAWG: (145*93) + (168*39) + (183*8) + VBT (169*18) = 24543/158 = 155. ((220-155)*0.90) = 58 pins.
    Another limb cracking.

    I don't know about the fair part, but the data as related to VBT isn't correct.

    18 games?

    That can't include after qualifying, because I bowled 2 more rounds after eliminating ZDawg and he is listed as 18 games.

    It also can't include only qualifying because my week at the independent in Mo Val (I call it Cadillac because that was it's name when it opened.) my phone froze, and you wouldn't allow those scores to count without proof.

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    Not that I feel like I should have more handicap, but I'm wondering where the (183*8) came from. My sports average was actually (159*8) unfortunately I had to drop out after two weeks due to the uncertainty of my staying in CA.

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    Sorry Aslan, but you need to put your pencil down, and step away from the spreadsheet.

    One season (VBT) of you're made up math is ENOUGH.

    We'll do this one nice and simple, and straight forward.

    USBC sanctioned leagues (non sport) from the 2013-2014 season.

    Bowl.com is nice enough to calculate the composite averages for us. We'll use that.

    The sport league average adjustment chart is crap.

    We'll stick with non sport condition averages.


    Aslan 8259-59071 Composite Average 166
    MWhite 1560-11073 Composite Average 199
    ZDawg 8677-37848 Composite Average 152

    Simple calculations:
    (199-199)*0.9 = 0 MWhite gets 0 per game, 0 for the series.
    (199-166)*0.9 = 29 Aslan gets 29 per game, 87 for the series.
    (199-152)*0.9 = 42 ZDawg gets 42 per game, 126 for the series.

    It doesn't get any more straight forward, and simple than that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aslan View Post
    And before Mike asks...the reason I didn't break out his 290 games is that:


    2) He bowls in like a billion leagues...so Mudpuppy would have cliff noted it.
    What can I say.... People wanted me to sub for their team.

    It's better than nobody wanting you to sub.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike White View Post
    Sorry Aslan, but you need to put your pencil down, and step away from the spreadsheet.

    One season (VBT) of you're made up math is ENOUGH.

    We'll do this one nice and simple, and straight forward.

    USBC sanctioned leagues (non sport) from the 2013-2014 season.

    Bowl.com is nice enough to calculate the composite averages for us. We'll use that.

    The sport league average adjustment chart is crap.

    We'll stick with non sport condition averages.


    Aslan 8259-59071 Composite Average 166
    MWhite 1560-11073 Composite Average 199
    ZDawg 8677-37848 Composite Average 152

    Simple calculations:
    (199-199)*0.9 = 0 MWhite gets 0 per game, 0 for the series.
    (199-166)*0.9 = 29 Aslan gets 29 per game, 87 for the series.
    (199-152)*0.9 = 42 ZDawg gets 42 per game, 126 for the series.

    It doesn't get any more straight forward, and simple than that.
    This makes a lot of sense. Will it happen?
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    All that to give ZDawg 2 more pins per game?? Because thats all it would net. I must be missing something or my math is off….OR…Mike is REALLY bored...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aslan View Post
    All that to give ZDawg 2 more pins per game?? Because thats all it would net. I must be missing something or my math is off….OR…Mike is REALLY bored...
    I have to say I agree with Mwhite much easier formula.
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