Why not bowl straight?

[Aslan]

So true! Developing a high rev/high speed release takes dedication and thousands of hours of practice. The alternative is to choose not to do the work and just bad-mouth those players who have put in their time and developed the power game that is required in modern bowling.

I think that statement is inaccurate.

I don't like the way the game has turned into a rev contest...I don't like that it's taken a lot of the previous attributes of great bowlers and made them obselete...I don't like that we've seen a 300% increase in perfect games...I don't like that spare shooting has lost priority to the point that the world has even created a new scoring system that makes spare shooting an afterthought...and I don't like the net effects of these "modern" changes in terms of bowling virtually disappearing into irrelevance.

So no...I'm not a big fan of the game as it's developed.

BUT...I still RESPECT that high level bowlers, rev dominant bowlers included, have put in the time and effort to get to that next level.

What I DON'T respect are those that have NOT put in the time nor effort and are bowling 200+ games but are completely unable to pick up spares. They have "propped up their games" using modern equipment and in my opinion are making a mockery of the sport because they're too lazy to put IN that work/effort.

Belmo is a perfect example. I don't like Belmo...I don't like his antics...his lack of sportsmanship...his lack of class...his arrogance...nor do I like his style...at ALL. BUT...but...I don't think there's a guy on the tour that has worked harder and put in more effort into developing his game, even Chris Barnes, than Belmo has. He's not just better than other 2-handers...he's SIGNIFICANTLY better than other 2-handers. He's inspired SO many young bowlers to adopt the 2-handed approach...but the downside is...too many young bowlers see Belmo throw 2-handed, see his success, and think all they gotta do is bowl 2-handed and they will be a superstar. Belmo didn't become great because he's 2-handed. He became great by working on his game a LOT...2-handed just gives him an extra edge.

[J Anderson]

I think that statement is inaccurate.

I don't like the way the game has turned into a rev contest...I don't like that it's taken a lot of the previous attributes of great bowlers and made them obselete...I don't like that we've seen a 300% increase in perfect games...I don't like that spare shooting has lost priority to the point that the world has even created a new scoring system that makes spare shooting an afterthought...and I don't like the net effects of these "modern" changes in terms of bowling virtually disappearing into irrelevance.

So no...I'm not a big fan of the game as it's developed.

BUT...I still RESPECT that high level bowlers, rev dominant bowlers included, have put in the time and effort to get to that next level.

What I DON'T respect are those that have NOT put in the time nor effort and are bowling 200+ games but are completely unable to pick up spares. They have "propped up their games" using modern equipment and in my opinion are making a mockery of the sport because they're too lazy to put IN that work/effort.

Belmo is a perfect example. I don't like Belmo...I don't like his antics...his lack of sportsmanship...his lack of class...his arrogance...nor do I like his style...at ALL. BUT...but...I don't think there's a guy on the tour that has worked harder and put in more effort into developing his game, even Chris Barnes, than Belmo has. He's not just better than other 2-handers...he's SIGNIFICANTLY better than other 2-handers. He's inspired SO many young bowlers to adopt the 2-handed approach...but the downside is...too many young bowlers see Belmo throw 2-handed, see his success, and think all they gotta do is bowl 2-handed and they will be a superstar. Belmo didn't become great because he's 2-handed. He became great by working on his game a LOT...2-handed just gives him an extra edge.

It is not the high rev game that is/has changed the game. It's the easy house patterns and the high tech balls that make a mockery of the USBC ball standards.

What you've said about kids wanting to throw like Belmonte could be said of any sports superstar. You probably grew up wanting too skate like Gretzky. I wanted to hit like Mikey Mantle. Very few of us ever become nearly as good as our sports heroes.

As for Belmonte's edge, any player or team at the top of the heap is going to have a bit of a psyche factor in their favor. Eventually some one else will knock him off the hill.

[larry mc]

as was stated its all about entry angle and carry percentage

[NewToBowling]

I think that statement is inaccurate.

I don't like the way the game has turned into a rev contest...I don't like that it's taken a lot of the previous attributes of great bowlers and made them obselete...I don't like that we've seen a 300% increase in perfect games...I don't like that spare shooting has lost priority to the point that the world has even created a new scoring system that makes spare shooting an afterthought...and I don't like the net effects of these "modern" changes in terms of bowling virtually disappearing into irrelevance.

So no...I'm not a big fan of the game as it's developed.

BUT...I still RESPECT that high level bowlers, rev dominant bowlers included, have put in the time and effort to get to that next level.

What I DON'T respect are those that have NOT put in the time nor effort and are bowling 200+ games but are completely unable to pick up spares. They have "propped up their games" using modern equipment and in my opinion are making a mockery of the sport because they're too lazy to put IN that work/effort.

Belmo is a perfect example. I don't like Belmo...I don't like his antics...his lack of sportsmanship...his lack of class...his arrogance...nor do I like his style...at ALL. BUT...but...I don't think there's a guy on the tour that has worked harder and put in more effort into developing his game, even Chris Barnes, than Belmo has. He's not just better than other 2-handers...he's SIGNIFICANTLY better than other 2-handers. He's inspired SO many young bowlers to adopt the 2-handed approach...but the downside is...too many young bowlers see Belmo throw 2-handed, see his success, and think all they gotta do is bowl 2-handed and they will be a superstar. Belmo didn't become great because he's 2-handed. He became great by working on his game a LOT...2-handed just gives him an extra edge.

I agree with your Belmo statement. Although I do like him 😄

You can tell he is very high level in that he is very accurate with his spares, even tough ones. And he bowls two handed even on spares

[rv driver]

I think that statement is inaccurate.

I don't like the way the game has turned into a rev contest...I don't like that it's taken a lot of the previous attributes of great bowlers and made them obselete...I don't like that we've seen a 300% increase in perfect games...I don't like that spare shooting has lost priority to the point that the world has even created a new scoring system that makes spare shooting an afterthought...and I don't like the net effects of these "modern" changes in terms of bowling virtually disappearing into irrelevance.

So no...I'm not a big fan of the game as it's developed.

BUT...I still RESPECT that high level bowlers, rev dominant bowlers included, have put in the time and effort to get to that next level.

What I DON'T respect are those that have NOT put in the time nor effort and are bowling 200+ games but are completely unable to pick up spares. They have "propped up their games" using modern equipment and in my opinion are making a mockery of the sport because they're too lazy to put IN that work/effort.

Belmo is a perfect example. I don't like Belmo...I don't like his antics...his lack of sportsmanship...his lack of class...his arrogance...nor do I like his style...at ALL. BUT...but...I don't think there's a guy on the tour that has worked harder and put in more effort into developing his game, even Chris Barnes, than Belmo has. He's not just better than other 2-handers...he's SIGNIFICANTLY better than other 2-handers. He's inspired SO many young bowlers to adopt the 2-handed approach...but the downside is...too many young bowlers see Belmo throw 2-handed, see his success, and think all they gotta do is bowl 2-handed and they will be a superstar. Belmo didn't become great because he's 2-handed. He became great by working on his game a LOT...2-handed just gives him an extra edge.

Kudos for this.

[rv driver]

It is not the high rev game that is/has changed the game. It's the easy house patterns and the high tech balls that make a mockery of the USBC ball standards.

What you've said about kids wanting to throw like Belmonte could be said of any sports superstar. You probably grew up wanting too skate like Gretzky. I wanted to hit like Mikey Mantle. Very few of us ever become nearly as good as our sports heroes.

As for Belmonte's edge, any player or team at the top of the heap is going to have a bit of a psyche factor in their favor. Eventually some one else will knock him off the hill.

It's like any other hobby. We've created more avenues for insipid tinkering with toys. We've gone from "How do I perfect my game" to "I need a ball that will do ... "

[JoeInPI]

.....are we referring to someone in particular Rob?

Pretty sure it's me. I forgot that you can't have opinions on forums, and people get butthurt. My bad.

My bad- I forgot that you NEED a high speed/high rev game to score now, and that nobody works harder than a high speed/high rev player.

Buy a game? Yeah- Just about anyone who wants to bowl can go to a proshop in 2015, buy a couple of new reax balls, some shoes, and score higher as a beginner than someone 20-30 years ago buying urethane or rubber. Technology took care of that, it isn't a rip on anyone's skill or practice acumen.