Had our winter meeting and they actually changed something.
We had our winter league start up meeting tonight and they changed to a different handicap method.
We were using 90% of 230 and they changed it to 90% of Team Difference.
Example:
Team A has a team average of 633
Team B has a team average of 538
633-538 = a 95 difference, 90% of 95 = 85.5
So Team A gets 0 pins hdcp and Team B gets 85 pins.
Surprisingly nobody argued about it and it got changed.
Nothing else really changed.
Of interest though when the house told what services they offered this year, they offered Coaching (I don't think they had that last year).
On a casual or formal basis you just had to ask. (I'm not sure if it cost anything, they had some noise on the loudspeaker and I missed part of what they said).
Plus the usual like the Reward card, Play pass for unlimited open bowling and such.
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The team difference method of handicap is used in virtually all of the high average leagues in the Vegas area, except most of them base the handicap on 80% and call them "almost scratch" leagues. The nice thing about the system is that it saves bowlers from looking up and seeing that the other team gets 350 pins of handicap, so there is less whining. LOL
One of the summer league we bowled in used the team average base 0 system
If was kinda confusing at first, but after a couple weeks it was no big deal
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We could still have a one or two teams see close to that, Last winter we had a couple of 800+ ave teams. during the summer they had a 822 average team. The lowest average team would have got 326 pins hdcp from them.Originally Posted by RobLV1
The team difference system is okay (I've bowled it before) , a lot of the bowlers felt it would give them more of a chance against the high average teams.
To me it doesn't make that big of a difference , if you lost a game before using the other system, you most likely will lose it using this one. Except for really close games, like if you tied before you might win (or lose) using this.
At least it's something different, now if they would just try a different oil pattern.
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I never noticed, but is that the way the TRIO's league at Red Rock is set up. Lee said there were some major proposals this year. See you on 9/10.
Actually, you won't be seeing me during the day at Red Rock this year. Last year I found that the only league that I really enjoyed was an open league at Southpoint. This summer was very enjoyable also, with my only leagues being open leagues at night at Red Rock on Tuesday night, and Southpoint on Thursday night. I really enjoy bowling with the young people, whether in a high average money league or a recreational league. With this in mind, I'm staying away from senior leagues, at least for the time being. You know how to contact me if you'd like to get together to practice sometime.
@Bowl1820: It is nice when you go to these meetings and they actually change something...rather than sitting through one and a half hours of bickering just to adopt the rules as they were when you started (this happened last night).
For a change that happened during one of my meetings it was this Sunday when the house decided to tell us during the meeting that they "just" reserved out the entire month of December and that we have to move our league to accommodate their reservation.
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I feel like you've just described every league meeting I've ever been to
We actually did make a change for once this year though, going with a match point system instead of a classic 5 point system. Looking forward to see how that changes things competitively!
Our league is mostly bickering but they do change something around every year, we had a start time of 6pm for 5 years last year they went to 630 because people were late all the time , this year they went back to 615 .... go figure since I took a class that goes until 545 across town.I feel like you've just described every league meeting I've ever been to
We actually did make a change for once this year though, going with a match point system instead of a classic 5 point system. Looking forward to see how that changes things competitively!
We have tweaked our scoring using different formats we had a match play / head to head 1 point per bowler for a couple of years, it led to some jacking around lineups to get the best match up.
IE team a would put in line up team b would put in lineup / team a would change line up then team b would want to change ....it was a mess with certain teams. We on the other hand put our lineup in let them match to us and didn't worry about it.
At one time we had a system where there were 20 points per match, I don't even recall the breakdown.
At one point in time, there was a rule that the team on the left lane had to establish their lineup first.
They couldn't change it until the first game was complete.
Repeat process for 2nd game, and 3rd.
The result was, lineups almost never changed during the night.
It seems a lot of rules from the ABC days have disappeared under USBC.
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