Energy storage of bowling ball

[Aslan]

As nerdy and awesome as this dicsussion is…

One thing I learned at my lesson Monday and it actually worked tonight…was balling down after missing right.

Logically…that doesn't make sense. But thats because I never really understood how a ball "dies". Once it was explained to me…then the idea of the stronger ball missing left then right (when you hit your mark) because the stronger ball "died". So even though it seems like balling down when missing right would result in missing more right…that didn't happen. I balled down to the Slingshot from the polished Encounter and actually made it back to the pocket and struck…after missing WELL right with the stronger polished Encounter.

Anyways…thought I'd share.

[Amyers]

As nerdy and awesome as this dicsussion is…

One thing I learned at my lesson Monday and it actually worked tonight…was balling down after missing right.

Logically…that doesn't make sense. But thats because I never really understood how a ball "dies". Once it was explained to me…then the idea of the stronger ball missing left then right (when you hit your mark) because the stronger ball "died". So even though it seems like balling down when missing right would result in missing more right…that didn't happen. I balled down to the Slingshot from the polished Encounter and actually made it back to the pocket and struck…after missing WELL right with the stronger polished Encounter.

Anyways…thought I'd share.

Kind of depends on why the ball missed right. If you missed due to the ball rolling out/ burning up then yes that could work or you could move farther inside and ball up too. If it missed right because the ball didn't have time to finish it's hook phase (too much oil) you just made your problem worse.

[Mike White]

Kind of depends on why the ball missed right. If you missed due to the ball rolling out/ burning up then yes that could work or you could move farther inside and ball up too. If it missed right because the ball didn't have time to finish it's hook phase (too much oil) you just made your problem worse.

It's actually very easy to see the difference between those two possibilities if you have a multi-colored ball, and a bit of observation skills.

The "burning up ball" loses it's axis rotation significantly, while the "too much oil" maintains axis rotation even into the pins.

[Amyers]

It's actually very easy to see the difference between those two possibilities if you have a multi-colored ball, and a bit of observation skills.

The "burning up ball" loses it's axis rotation significantly, while the "too much oil" maintains axis rotation even into the pins.

Wasn't saying I couldn't tell the difference just clarifying for the crowd

[Aslan]

Kind of depends on why the ball missed right. If you missed due to the ball rolling out/ burning up then yes that could work or you could move farther inside and ball up too. If it missed right because the ball didn't have time to finish it's hook phase (too much oil) you just made your problem worse.

"Usually" (not always)...if a ball misses left or center...and you make a move left....THEN you miss right...THAT is when you should ball down.

Yes, it could miss because of skidding too far...but generally it wouldn't have missed left the shot before if that was the case.

And I never "ball up"...unless I'm completely toast and way, way too far inside...then maybe I'll try a completely different line and ball up to start. But generally I've balled down as I've moved left...balling "up" would put me back in the situation I was already in previous.

My difficulty in mastering this system is:
1) It requires you to have a consistent release/speed.
2) It assumes you have an arsenal with noticeable differences from ball to ball.
3) It assumes you have some semblance of a rev rate.

[classygranny]

Who ever said physics wasn't exciting??

Also, where are all the girls?

I could take offense to that...but I won't. To be honest some of this conversation makes my head spin. I feel like the comic strip character with the head going round 'n round.

While I understand what's happening on the lane and see most of what's happening on the lane (I see other's balls better than my own), taking part in a written conversation of this type would put me way out of my element. I'm an accountant, not a rocket scientist!...if you could make it a number puzzle, then I could get somewhere!

[Aslan]

cgranny-

1) As the only girl that really participates...it gives you the unique position of being able to have your choice of any male BBer that you desire. Granted...that's like saying you get to pick the least smelliest turd in the toilet...but still...if I was the only man on an all female site...and I didn't do anything to make the majority of them hate me...that's like literally 27% of my fantasies. My key to success with the ladies, in addition to ample alcohol availability and desperation...is superior statistical advantage.

2) Don't feel bad. My head spins the same way when MWhite tries to argue about why I shouldn't get handicap when I bowl against him.

My head also spins...like last night...when I'm trying my **** off to bowl well...and taking lessons...and watching bowling...and practicing...and doing ALL that stuff...yet I hit the pocket and leave a 6-pin...yet the beginner girl throwing a 2nd hand ball, back-up style, hits the headpin dead on and gets a strike as the pins part like the Red Sea in slow motion. That makes me want to punch things. I used to have a doll in my bag that I would take my frustrations out on...but during some rather frustrating times, I shook it so violently that the head fell off. So now it's a headless doll.

[Amyers]

cgranny-

1) As the only girl that really participates...it gives you the unique position of being able to have your choice of any male BBer that you desire. Granted...that's like saying you get to pick the least smelliest turd in the toilet...but still...if I was the only man on an all female site...and I didn't do anything to make the majority of them hate me...that's like literally 27% of my fantasies. My key to success with the ladies, in addition to ample alcohol availability and desperation...is superior statistical advantage.

2) Don't feel bad. My head spins the same way when MWhite tries to argue about why I shouldn't get handicap when I bowl against him.

My head also spins...like last night...when I'm trying my **** off to bowl well...and taking lessons...and watching bowling...and practicing...and doing ALL that stuff...yet I hit the pocket and leave a 6-pin...yet the beginner girl throwing a 2nd hand ball, back-up style, hits the headpin dead on and gets a strike as the pins part like the Red Sea in slow motion. That makes me want to punch things. I used to have a doll in my bag that I would take my frustrations out on...but during some rather frustrating times, I shook it so violently that the head fell off. So now it's a headless doll.

Where did you see my oldest daughter bowl? She throws that ball all the time I actually think she truly gets better pin action smacking the head pin dead on than in the pocket

[Mike White]

cgranny-

1) As the only girl that really participates...it gives you the unique position of being able to have your choice of any male BBer that you desire. Granted...that's like saying you get to pick the least smelliest turd in the toilet...but still...if I was the only man on an all female site...and I didn't do anything to make the majority of them hate me...that's like literally 27% of my fantasies. My key to success with the ladies, in addition to ample alcohol availability and desperation...is superior statistical advantage.

2) Don't feel bad. My head spins the same way when MWhite tries to argue about why I shouldn't get handicap when I bowl against him.

My head also spins...like last night...when I'm trying my **** off to bowl well...and taking lessons...and watching bowling...and practicing...and doing ALL that stuff...yet I hit the pocket and leave a 6-pin...yet the beginner girl throwing a 2nd hand ball, back-up style, hits the headpin dead on and gets a strike as the pins part like the Red Sea in slow motion. That makes me want to punch things. I used to have a doll in my bag that I would take my frustrations out on...but during some rather frustrating times, I shook it so violently that the head fell off. So now it's a headless doll.

If you hit the "pocket" and leave a 6 pin, you have too loose a definition of the "pocket".

Thats almost like the time we were in Vegas bowling against Ice/Mud and I hit flush in the pocket and left a 3 pin.

At least in my case, the 3 pin ended up in the 10 pin spot.

[jab5325]

cgranny-

1) As the only girl that really participates...it gives you the unique position of being able to have your choice of any male BBer that you desire. Granted...that's like saying you get to pick the least smelliest turd in the toilet...but still...if I was the only man on an all female site...and I didn't do anything to make the majority of them hate me...that's like literally 27% of my fantasies. My key to success with the ladies, in addition to ample alcohol availability and desperation...is superior statistical advantage.

2) Don't feel bad. My head spins the same way when MWhite tries to argue about why I shouldn't get handicap when I bowl against him.

My head also spins...like last night...when I'm trying my **** off to bowl well...and taking lessons...and watching bowling...and practicing...and doing ALL that stuff...yet I hit the pocket and leave a 6-pin...yet the beginner girl throwing a 2nd hand ball, back-up style, hits the headpin dead on and gets a strike as the pins part like the Red Sea in slow motion. That makes me want to punch things. I used to have a doll in my bag that I would take my frustrations out on...but during some rather frustrating times, I shook it so violently that the head fell off. So now it's a headless doll.

Speaking of strange leaves......my most common leave from Monday night was an 8pin. I've never had that happen before.