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[LyalC52]

if i wasn't bowing with my daughters, i would only bowl scratch leagues due to jerks like the ones Im about to tell a hilarious story about

Thursday night mixed league, there is a team with a bitter old couple that scheme and openly sandbag
they have 2 vacant spots and have refused to allow anyone to be added to their team

they write numbers and have it down how to get just enough points to win, or if they think they have lost, they will bomb badly

so last night was position round, they were in the 3rd spot, my team the 4th
the house we bowls in usually adds the difference in handicap to the first frame, so the team with less handicap has their scratch score below, and there is a + or - on each teams monitor.

well the house didn't put the handicaps in, so both teams were tracking scratch and the +/- was based on scratch
no one noticed or said anything
our team gets 45 pins of handicap more than they do

so 10th frame of the first game, the anchor waits until my team has completely finished the 10th. he was working on a spare and the monitor showed +16 for them. he throws both balls in the gutter.

second game they get off off a big lead and coast the rest of the game and win by 50

third game was close most of the game. I was very pissy by this point so as the lead off bowler, i wandered off and waited until they gave in and finally bowled the 10th. the rest of my team sat at the table and laughed about it. as it ended, the score said we lost by 30

then as we turned the recap sheet in, something didn't look right and that's when we noticed the handicap was not added in
so we won 3 of the 4 points

had the bitter old goat not thrown those 2 gutters, they would have been the ones with 3 points

[Jessiewoodard57]

and I'll bet it's not even a money league is it

[LyalC52]

at best, if you win the league maybe $300 per bowler
weekly fee is only $15.00

[bowl1820]

so last night was position round, they were in the 3rd spot, my team the 4th
the house we bowls in usually adds the difference in handicap to the first frame, so the team with less handicap has their scratch score below, and there is a + or - on each teams monitor.

well the house didn't put the handicaps in, so both teams were tracking scratch and the +/- was based on scratch
no one noticed or said anything
our team gets 45 pins of handicap more than they do

Lesson to be learned here:

Both Team Captains should be checking that handicaps & scoring are correctly being done at the start and finish of a nights bowling (Especially on position rounds).

Note: Given if the team refuses to allow any bowlers to be added to their team to fill out the team roster. The league could take steps to remove them from the league.

[zdawg]

Note: Given if the team refuses to allow any bowlers to be added to their team to fill out the team roster. The league could take steps to remove them from the league.

I was gonna say, I'm fairly certain that isn't even allowed in my league.

[LyalC52]

yea much harder to sand bag as a team with four

[Ishkabibble]

Do they pay for the 2 vacant spots?

[LyalC52]

no

this league is very loosely run, the secretary does what he thinks is best, we really need rules

[bowl1820]

Do they pay for the 2 vacant spots?

no

this league is very loosely run, the secretary does what he thinks is best, we really need rules

Most leagues don't make teams pay for vacancies, But will reduce your prize money payout. Usually by at least the amount of prizefund/Sec. money your team didn't pay in. (the lineage portion would all depend on how the house charges the league for lineage.)

[fordman1]

If it is a certified USBC league you can use the USBC rules. That being said every league should have Bylaws.
If you had rules you would have had a pre season meeting and you could have put in a rule only full teams can bowl and if a team is short they must accept anyone the league can find to fill their spot or be dropped.

no

this league is very loosely run, the secretary does what he thinks is best, we really need rules