Originally Posted by fordman1
And you, my friend, are a stone cold anti-gunner. This is the only way to explain a statement like this.
How is that even remotely close to an easy fix, it's not easy, and it fixes nothing.
The folks carrying guns that you need to worry about are the criminals and gang members, they are not about to leave there guns in the trunk or follow any laws in general.
You can probably find an incident or two on legal permitted gun owners doing something wrong but you can find more where they saved innocent people.
How many legal gun holders are likely to hold you up ? Probably very few.
Why this would make you feel safer going to the mall or a ball game, I don't know? Do you expect the criminals to follow this gun law of yours?
There aren't many things the average criminal with a gun is afraid of but one is running into a trained and armed person.
The constitution gives us the right to bear arms, we should not give that up under the false guise that it will reduce crime. Look at gun related crime in Chicago with very restrictive gun laws, it doesn't work.
There are better ways to reduce gun crime, what about increasing the points ( federal crime ) by a significant amount or making any person using a gun in a crime automatically tried as an adult, making any crime where criminal has possession of a gun a class B felony ( 25 years to life) ... those are some significant penalties that have a better chance of making a difference.
And you, my friend, are a stone cold anti-gunner. This is the only way to explain a statement like this.
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If you ever get to stand over a dead body of a young child shot with their parents gun tell me how you feel. If you think it is easy to shoot someone do it. No matter if you actually think it is justified. Even shooting and not knowing if you hit anyone. Go ahead be a cowboy.
This is poor gun management and parental error - has nothing to do with gun laws.
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I stood next to the body of a friend shot with his own gun, by his own hands. That doesn't change my opinion. A gun is a tool. No more or less dangerous than a hammer, depending on the hands they're in. Your irrational fear of them does not trump my Second Amendment rights.
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I feel the parents are at fault, but we weren't talking about young kids playing with guns anyway, we were talking about concealed carry and the right to have a gun. I have done considerable hunting and learned to shoot a gun in the service, I'm not afraid to shoot a gun and am a responsible gun owner.
If threatened or attacked I will use whatever means necessary to protect me and my family, if someone pulls a gun on me and I have the opportunity I will use my gun and fire until they are no longer a threat or I'm out of ammo.
About two weeks ago in a town near me that I often visit there was a series of incidents, four teenagers 14-17 committed 19 armed robberies in less than 9 hours. Seems the same kids were arrested last summer in a similar string of robberies, and they being minors were released to terrorize the community again. It's too bad that they didn't run into a concealed carry permit holder, could have put a stop to it.
Those are the criminals, it is not illegal to carry a concealed weapon if you are authorized and trained to do so. It's possible that were you live there is no reason for anyone to need a gun for protection, that's not how it is everywhere.
I don't currently have a permit, so I don't carry a gun but I do carry a good sized container if pepper gel for personal protection, the bowling center I bowl at has had people robbed in the parking lot twice in the last year..... I don't plan to be the next victim !
The center I bowl at is literally next to the police department. Strangely, we don't seem to have any issues......
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Parental error is a very kind way of putting it, i would describe that a little more harshly.
i think fordman1 is trolling...i cant accept the fact that he would be that naive.
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