I'm sure he would have some insight.....Originally Posted by RobLV1
What, the USBC not making a wise decision?!? Heavens, can it be? Mock it all you like. Ask Glenn Allison about USBC's wise decisions.
I'm sure he would have some insight.....
You know as well as I do that scratch bowlers will find any kind of excuse for a bad set. ESPECIALLY a senior scratch bowler. Instead of taking it on themselves they will deflect bad performance on the lanes, the ball, the other guy cleaning or wiping his ball after every shot............
Sorry, just not buying that the "miracle" cleaner is going to take that much more oil off the lanes than is already taken off with a ball that is either wiped or cleaned with a different cleaner.
High Sanctioned Scratch Game - 300(12) Hi Sanctioned Scratch Series - 822(3)
2016/17 Book Average=221, 2017/18 Composite Average=223
Equipment in the bag - Storm Crux Prime, Storm Physix, Roto Grip Idol, Roto Grip Idol Pearl, Roto Grip Hyper Cell Fused, Storm Sure Lock, Storm Drive, Roto Grip Winner Solid, Roto Grip Haywire, Storm Fever Pitch, Roto Grip Red ball spare.
Rev Rate 400. Speed 18 at heads, 16.5-17 at pins. Axis tilt 10, Axis Rotation 55. PAP 5 5/8 x 5/8 up
I'm pretty sure I've bowled against those guys !
I myself always claim it's the ball or the lanes, if I bowled well, and it's all me, if I bowled poorly.
+1
I have to agree with you here.
Right handed Stroker, high track ,about 13 degree axis tilt. PAP is located 5 9/16” over 1 3/4” up.Speed ave. about 14 mph at the pins. Medium rev’s.High Game 300, High series 798
"Talent without training is nothing." Luke Skywalker
I can certainly hear some guys in the morning league with many old timers making these sort of complaints...a good 50% of the guys will wipe the ball off before every throw.
I have no idea if anyone in my leagues is using this cleaner, the latest one I heard discussed was the Storm foam.
I don't notice very many guys spraying anything on the ball between shots but do see someone now and then take the ball back off the lane and cleaning the belt marks off, have not seen anyone confronted and asked what they are using to clean ball.
I'm sure that someone could spray their towel and then bring it down and wipe off the ball and most people wouldn't notice....
Last edited by Tony; 12-19-2015 at 01:06 PM.
Sorry, but the league to which I'm referring is NOT a senior league, in fact there are several PBA National and Regional Titelists in the league. Comments that have been made about the Purple Stuff have been made before league starts, not as a result of anyone bowling badly. Keep in mind that many of these guys are extremely high rev players where fresh surface, shot after shot, will make a difference.
Comments before league even starts?
In a way that's even worse, it's like someone saying "IF! I bowl bad after we start, it's not because of something I did or didn't do , it's that guys fault. I didn't have perfect conditions"
Since the PBA National and Regional Titlists know about this before hand and being pros, do they prepare for it? or do they just gripe about how the conditions are not going to be perfect for their high rev style?
Right handed Stroker, high track ,about 13 degree axis tilt. PAP is located 5 9/16” over 1 3/4” up.Speed ave. about 14 mph at the pins. Medium rev’s.High Game 300, High series 798
"Talent without training is nothing." Luke Skywalker
Had a good laugh at this. Comments at the lanes before they even start huh? Sure seems like making excuses and assumptions. You know what they say when you assume right?
High rev players make a difference on the lanes anyway. Heck, even low rev players make a difference. Regardless if someone is using the "miracle" stuff or not.
High Sanctioned Scratch Game - 300(12) Hi Sanctioned Scratch Series - 822(3)
2016/17 Book Average=221, 2017/18 Composite Average=223
Equipment in the bag - Storm Crux Prime, Storm Physix, Roto Grip Idol, Roto Grip Idol Pearl, Roto Grip Hyper Cell Fused, Storm Sure Lock, Storm Drive, Roto Grip Winner Solid, Roto Grip Haywire, Storm Fever Pitch, Roto Grip Red ball spare.
Rev Rate 400. Speed 18 at heads, 16.5-17 at pins. Axis tilt 10, Axis Rotation 55. PAP 5 5/8 x 5/8 up
Didn't the USBC rule used to be you can't alter the ball in any way other than wiping it with a towel and no cleaner or scuff pads after competition starts? Personally i think that should be the rule. I think i will try some of that purple stuff though to clean before bowling.
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