have struggles

[brebre]

I've been lately struggling on my timing in my 4 step approach. I've then decided one night to tryout both 5 step and a 4 step approach... I am not sure what puts me more in timing or in motion because i know that your 2nd step your ball should be right behind your left feet's ankle.

Check out my video: https://www.coachseye.com/v/kFOy < 5 step approach

4step #coachseye https://www.coachseye.com/v/yd1R < 4 step approach

2nd questions... i just wanna ask is that on my backswing (i throw a 15ib bowling ball) i am not sure how to swing your armswing back to where its not behind my back and just straight back and forth..

last question... my coach wants me to try to stay behind the bowling ball so that i can get more "revs" onto the ball... as you can see on the video, when i come down on my armswing i start turning my hand on the side of the ball instead of being behind the ball all the way to the releasing point. I have people tell me that my biceps are weak and other people tell me that i have to force myself to stay behind the ball... Is there any suggestions to this?

[ChuckR]

1. Do you throw with the bicep or more shoulder, like a Pete Weber.
2. IF the ball is drilled to stay behind it, then that is the highest rev position. When the lanes are drier or broken down THEN less behind should be the way to go.

[scottymoney]

You do get around the side of the ball a lot. I am guessing you may struggle in late game on the breakdown when your side rotation is creating too much directional and it hits the dry causing it to be jumpy?

As far as the bicep...... I have never heard of anyone mention that biceps are really needed in bowling. We aren't doing curls here, nor are we bench pressing or any other arm exercise. Think of your arm as just a pendulum, when you start "muscling" the ball is when you start putting too much into it and you will be erratic. Speed comes from your legs, leave the arm muscle out of it.

Other than that your timing does not look too far off. It all gets back to the arm being parallel to the floor when your slide foot starts its slide.

[vdubtx]

[billf]

2nd questions... i just wanna ask is that on my backswing (i throw a 15ib bowling ball) i am not sure how to swing your armswing back to where its not behind my back and just straight back and forth..

To get a nice backswing height without going behind the back the ball needs to be (in the stance) in front of the shoulder seam yet the push or hinge should go to the left then as the arm gets into the backswing rotate the hand/wrist so the hand is between the ball and body. This rotation allows the arm to go back with less posterior deltoid involvement. The anterior and medial deltoid have greater ranges of motion.

[billf]

Not to be rude but your footwork is horrible.
The first step in each video is too short. The first steps should be the slowest and longest while the last two the shortest and quickest.

Textbook footwork (right hander) has the right foot placed in line and in front of the left foot each time the right foot moves. The slide step should also go in-line and in front of the right foot.

Finally, timing should be measured at the "timing spot" Scotty mentioned above. Where the timing is before that is usually irrelevant.