Page 2 of 4 FirstFirst 1234 LastLast
Results 11 to 20 of 39

Thread: Is two-handed bowling unfair?

  1. #11
    Bowling Guru Amyers's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Location
    Charleston, WV
    Posts
    3,991
    Chats: 32

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by RobLV1 View Post
    Does it occur to anyone here that bowling's main sponsors are ball manufacturers? Go back to plastic or rubber and you go back to one ball per bowler and the death of the little bit that's left of the sport.
    This nailed it. The ball manufactures are the one group that is still making money in the bowling world of today. Kill the one golden goose you have left? I'm not a fan of the two hander style but I don't hate it either. I do wonder if we will reach a point where it's throw that way or don't compete at the higher ends of the sport which is really going to suck.

    I liked the idea with the oil patterns and 8 week schedule Brian was referring too. I think it's kind of sad that my daughter who bowls various tournaments routinely bowls on tougher conditions than I ever do. The one place I see bowling growing is in the youth divisions they maybe less of them but they are competing in a much higher level and organized fashion than was ever available when I was younger. I have hopes that her generation that grew up competing in these tournaments on sport patterns and challenge shots will demand a change in the league scene instead of whining like my generation seems too but I'm just not sure if they there will be enough of them to really change the sport.
    I am a proud member of Bowlingboards.com bowling forums and ball contest winner

    Current arsenal

    900 Global Badger Claw - Radical Ridiculous Pearl - Spare Ball Ebonite T Zone

  2. #12
    Pin Crusher
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Location
    Dearborn Mi
    Posts
    1,398
    Chats: 0

    Default

    League bowlers are the money pit. League bowlers pay for almost everything. You want to kill bowling, kill the leagues. Change the shot and within a year half will bowl in non certified leagues and the smart owners will give then the dreaded house shot. I agree the youth bowlers bowl on sports shots but mostly because that is what they are made to use. Once school is over they quit for the most part. They can not afford it with low paying entry jobs. No good paying union jobs anymore.

  3. #13
    Ringer Jessiewoodard57's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2015
    Location
    Central Florida
    Posts
    379
    Chats: 0

    Default

    Two handed or one to me makes no difference each has their own challenges ...I could not imagine having to loft the left gutter cap to make it back to the pocket as Belmo does from time to time. As long as they have the same rules to follow as everyone else don't see what the deal is. You don't see the pros calling foul why should we?
    Roto Grip Sinister, Storm 2Fast, Roto Grip Haywire, Storm Joy Ride, Storm Phase, Storm Sky Rocket, Storm Mix, 14#equipment..Disabled bowler bowl from a wheel chair.
    I am a proud member of Bowlingboards.com bowling Forums and a ball contest winner!

  4. #14
    Ringer ep1977's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2015
    Location
    Long Island, NY
    Posts
    382
    Chats: 0

    Default

    I wouldn't want to ban 2 handed bowling but I do think it should be a separate division. They should compete with themselves and the traditional bowlers against each other.

  5. #15
    High Roller foreverincamo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Location
    North.Canton, Ohio
    Posts
    1,577
    Chats: 0

    Default

    My original post shows it IS the pros, albeit two of them, who are complaining about the two-handlers and the equipment. I guess what's funny is the first movement away from rubber balls were the colorful plastic balls. They didn't hook any more than rubber, but they were pretty.
    Then urethane came out, and balls could hook a bit more. Everyone was buying them, amateurs and pros. Then came the newer core shapes, and with them a little more hook. And finally reactive resin and crazy cores that act like engines that create hook with very little effort.
    I was a "cranker" when I was much, much younger. I threw a hook every bit as big as I do now. Except now I'm not blistering my thumb and fingers and ruining my wrist trying to put all that torque on the ball. I can either roll up the back of the ball, hit up the side of the ball, or roll my hand around the ball like tossing a football underhand and create hook with a quarter of the effort.
    Sorry, but I like the new balls. Hell, I own 9 different balls now. 3 three-ball totes. And I enjoy the game just as much as I did when I was younger and wanted to go pro. And when I turn 50 in a few years, I'm going to do just that.

  6. #16
    High Roller vdubtx's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Location
    Rockwall, TX
    Posts
    2,802
    Chats: 256

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by ep1977 View Post
    I wouldn't want to ban 2 handed bowling but I do think it should be a separate division. They should compete with themselves and the traditional bowlers against each other.
    That would mean you need a separate division for lefties too. Since they hardly ever have to compete on burned conditions?
    High Sanctioned Scratch Game - 300(12) Hi Sanctioned Scratch Series - 822(3)
    2016/17 Book Average=221, 2017/18 Composite Average=223
    Equipment in the bag - Storm Crux Prime, Storm Physix, Roto Grip Idol, Roto Grip Idol Pearl, Roto Grip Hyper Cell Fused, Storm Sure Lock, Storm Drive, Roto Grip Winner Solid, Roto Grip Haywire, Storm Fever Pitch, Roto Grip Red ball spare.

    Rev Rate 400. Speed 18 at heads, 16.5-17 at pins. Axis tilt 10, Axis Rotation 55. PAP 5 5/8 x 5/8 up

  7. #17
    Ringer Jessiewoodard57's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2015
    Location
    Central Florida
    Posts
    379
    Chats: 0

    Default

    When Nascar went and changed the rules as to points It just was not the same Nascar anymore. Your big names like Richard Petty and Dale Earnhardt would not have the championships they do under the scoring of modern racing. It's more luck then skill that wins a championship now. Many people just stopped following the side show. I think we need to learn from their mistakes and leave things alone.

    When we start forming off shoot divisions 2 handed and 1 handed, Left and right, where will it end? With a lot of people just throwing their hands up and walking away. A lot of wisdom in the old saying "if it isn't broke don't fix it" or even the KISS " Keep It Simple Stupid". just my humble opinion.
    Last edited by Jessiewoodard57; 02-18-2016 at 09:02 AM.
    Roto Grip Sinister, Storm 2Fast, Roto Grip Haywire, Storm Joy Ride, Storm Phase, Storm Sky Rocket, Storm Mix, 14#equipment..Disabled bowler bowl from a wheel chair.
    I am a proud member of Bowlingboards.com bowling Forums and a ball contest winner!

  8. #18
    Cranker
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Location
    New Jersey
    Posts
    924
    Chats: 0

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by vdubtx View Post
    That would mean you need a separate division for lefties too. Since they hardly ever have to compete on burned conditions?
    Why stop there? Guys with 500+ rev rates throwing it one handed isn't fair either. They should have their own division too.

  9. #19
    High Roller foreverincamo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Location
    North.Canton, Ohio
    Posts
    1,577
    Chats: 0

    Default

    These responses show that there just isn't a simple solution. It seems to me that professional bowling is making a comeback. With the PWBA back, and now all their finals are televised ( not live ) it's just getting better. What bowling needs to do is recruit from the college players and get a real youth movement going and continuing. Get more sponsors and more money and make it so being a bowler can be your ONLY job and not your second job. Then bowling can truly blossom.

  10. #20
    Ringer
    Join Date
    Dec 2014
    Location
    Central PA
    Posts
    441
    Chats: 0

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by foreverincamo View Post
    These responses show that there just isn't a simple solution. It seems to me that professional bowling is making a comeback. With the PWBA back, and now all their finals are televised ( not live ) it's just getting better. What bowling needs to do is recruit from the college players and get a real youth movement going and continuing. Get more sponsors and more money and make it so being a bowler can be your ONLY job and not your second job. Then bowling can truly blossom.
    Bingo.

    League bowling is still dead in many areas.

    But, there is progress being made in other areas. A strong youth program to open up a pipeline to adult leagues is crucial to the sport.
    Current Average: 190

    My Arsenal:
    Hammer Bad Intentions
    Storm Rocket
    Hammer Black Urethane
    Columbia WD Spare Ball

Page 2 of 4 FirstFirst 1234 LastLast

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •