I have to imagine you mean 500 and then polish?
HELP! Can't stop sucking!
I've been AWOL for a while.. basically to disgusted with myself to talk much about bowling. Got some coaching and in many ways I feel like I'm bowling better than ever.. but its not translating on league night. I practice a lot, but only bowl in league once a week. The problem is all of my practice is on chewed up lanes and I usually do pretty well. When I get to League and they lay down the fresh oil I can't seem to find any room. I have pretty slow ball speed and probably an average rev rate at this time. Depending on the conditions in practice I can play anywhere from standing 20 to 30 and playing a breakpoint of 5 to 10. I can usually find a good groove and I do ok.
However, when I play on league night with fresh oil I get trapped with "Flatten out my angles and the ball grabs early and cuts through the nose if i'm a touch slow or get a bit more hand... " "Steepen my angle through the front and the ball never reads the mid lane.. it just squirts to the end of the pattern or to the gutter and jumps left" I'm Over/Under all night. I'm just clueless as to how I should be adjusting to this.
The best success I've been able to have is putting 500 grit surface on my Marvel S.. Playing around 3rd arrow for the target out to about 8 or 9... The only problem is once that goes away it puts me in a bad spot where I'm going through the face the rest of the night with every other ball I try.
The balls I'm working with are mostly Pin up small VAL angle drillings.. Low RG Balls. I just added a new Hy-Road with a 45 x 4.5 x 65ish drilling and that was jumping off the back of the pattern too.. just never really reading the mid lane.
I have to imagine you mean 500 and then polish?
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the person in my league who would put 500 grit on a strong ball for THS, he's a spinner. Any fresh oil, he's toast. On dry lanes, he shines.....
Nope.. 500 Abralon on a Marvel S is the only way I can get it to read the midlane it seems.Originally Posted by AlexNC
I'm definitely not a spinner.. I track extremely high... As a matter of fact I've been putting my ring finger in to the first knuckle and my middle finger in less (down to the middle of the pad) in order to increase my tilt so I don't roll over the thumb and finger holes before it flares away. I'm not having a problem getting the ball to hook.. I'm having a problem controlling where it hooks. If my angles are too direct it grabs early.. If I increase my angle and plan in more oil it pushes almost into the gutter before jumping uncontrollably back.
I track very high too and I have the same issue when the lanes start to break down. I find just staying behind the ball and not really turning my wrist on my release really helps me control the amount of hook.
Changing tilt is done with hand and/or wrist position. Not with finger depth in the hole, doing that just adds to inconsistency in the release.
Last edited by fokai73; 03-12-2016 at 01:48 PM.
first off I agree with Fokai. Not even narrating your fingers is not the way to change your tilt. If your clipping the holes you've got the wrong drilling for your release. It sounds like you maybe a full roller and there are drilling so for that style.
Second if you're pro shop sold you a hy road when you wanted something to read the mid lane you probably need to find a new pro shop. The hy road is very clean through the mids by nature
I was adding the hy-road for something smoother with a larger Val Angle... More specifically to try out a different drilling with a good benchmark ball. Most of my other balls are low RG with very small VAL angles. They give me plenty of Midlane, so the Hy-Road was to give me something different with a slower and more gradual hook that would allow me to play with a more direct angle. So for example, I was practicing yesterday and the Hyroad gave me that nice arcing reaction that I was looking for to compliment my optimus which was more skid/snap.... but those were used up lanes... on a fresh league shot the optimus would nearly push to the gutter if I gave it enough angle through the front to keep it on the right of the head pin... and that nice arc the hyroad gives me on chewed up lanes becomes a hockey stick. Unfortunately, the only time I get to practice on fresh oil is once a week in league. The rest of the time I practice I'm seeing things that are completely different and because of that I'm having a tough time adjusting. For example, the new Hy-road with 3000 surface gave me that nice sweeping hook I wanted for when I'm getting an over/under condition.. On the league shot it was even worse of a skid/snap reaction than I had with my polished Marvel Pearl or Optimus. Maybe that's expected.. but that is NOT what I see when I practice 20 million times during the week.
As for the finger position.. I don't Track BETWEEN the thumb and finger holes.. but I do track very close to them and sometimes when I'm late with my release I'll track over the thumb and finger. It may not be the correct way to correct tilt, but I can say changing my finger position moves the ball track about 1/4 inch off of my finger hole. Maybe in shifting my fingers I'm shifting my hand position to re-balance.. But really that isn't part what is concerning me with my current difficulties..
For those keeping score... I've asked about how to better adjust to my over/under issue in League and I've gotten:
1) Stay behind the ball to control the hook. (thanks.. I'll try that)
2) I must be mistaken about 500 Grit.. must be 500 grit with Polish
3) If I'm using 500 Grit, I must be a spinner
4) I must be a full Roller if I'm tracking over the fingers so I should look at New Equipment/Drillings
5) I should find a new Pro-shop if they sold me a Hy-Road
6) I'm trying to adjust my axis Tilt Wrong
Just waiting for the "Save your money on practice and find a certified coach" and then we can officially close this thread..
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