USBC Declares Motiv Jackal/Jackal Challenge Approval Revoked

[Mike White]

I already proposed how they could check.

Maximum diff = 0.060.

Most radical drilling layout increases diff to 0.080 (hypothetical).

Post drilling diff. must be < 0.080 (hypothetical).

Problem solved. Every ball used goes through the test and there are penalties for violations. I guarantee it solves the problem. Bowlers can easily and cheaply test their equipment pre-tournament...the big ball manufacturers will do it in their vans and booths for their athletes almost ensuring a 100% pass rate.

What you don't realize is testing for RG is a time consuming task.

So unless you has a large number of people conducting the tests, you are going to take HOURS to test the balls used in each squad.

In the video a large part of measuring the RG is edited out because it's either waiting for the ball to slowly rotate, or is repeating the process to average the results.

[Mike White]

My comments are in Red

On thing to note. Ball manufacturers have to pay for balls submitted for approval.

It's not funded by the $12 coming from the members.

[jab5325]

I'm just proud to say that I started a 10 page thread.http://www.bowlingboards.com/newrepl...reply&p=141338

[Mike White]

I'm just proud to say that I started a 10 page thread.http://www.bowlingboards.com/newrepl...reply&p=141338

Don't be too proud, Aslan exceeds 10 pages when containing only one post.

[bowl1820]

I'm just proud to say that I started a 10 page thread.http://www.bowlingboards.com/newrepl...reply&p=141338

Another forum has you beat though, 12 pages with 239 replies

[vdubtx]

Another forum has you beat though, 12 pages with 239 replies

Yea, that thread is a good one. Has been a good discussion over there.

One person in particular has it in for the USBC so quite a few posts regarding that and what he felt they should have done.

[bowl1820]

Yea, that thread is a good one. Has been a good discussion over there.

One person in particular has it in for the USBC so quite a few posts regarding that and what he felt they should have done.

Oh yeah, I think the thread is on the verge of getting out of hand. Amazingly the threads on facebook have slowed and stopped for the most part.

Most of them just took it in stride and it's done, now their just sitting back thinking about what ball they want to get to replace them.

[Mike White]

Another forum has you beat though, 12 pages with 239 replies

Not bowling related, but we had a 24 page thread with 9 months worth of on topic conversation. (Dec '06 thru Sep '07)


The topic was a fast computer algorithm to calculate the poker value of each possible 7 card hand.

My contributions were under the name mykey1961.

http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/show...Number=8513906

[Amyers]

On thing to note. Ball manufacturers have to pay for balls submitted for approval.

It's not funded by the $12 coming from the members.

That is true for the balls submitted for approval. How it works if they select balls for random testing I have no idea but the money to purchase them would come from somewhere.

[Mike White]

That is true for the balls submitted for approval. How it works if they select balls for random testing I have no idea but the money to purchase them would come from somewhere.

If you were in the business of testing balls, knowing that in the future you are also going to be doing random testing, wouldn't you budget into your original fee the cost of random testing.

Now it the balls fail random testing, you will be taking a risk of purchasing a larger sample, but if those also fail, you can recoup your costs plus more by levying a fine on the manufacturer of say $16,000.