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    Great hi-jack to what could have been a good thread with different theories and opinions of stats. Way to go kids!
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    Quote Originally Posted by classygranny View Post
    Great hi-jack to what could have been a good thread with different theories and opinions of stats. Way to go kids!
    Stats are about the past.

    The most important shot is the next one you're about to throw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fokai73 View Post
    When it comes to recording POCKET hits or miss I do this......

    Each game I record each frame with these letters, numbers, and symbols to represent my pocket entry. I go onto "game Detail" and record it after each frame. It seems a bit too much but it's really not. I started this 3 weeks ago and it actually helps me to remember what happened the last time I was on that lane and hopefully make the right adjustments.

    here's a sample:

    Game 1: H (high)8 @11, L (light), F (flush), B (brook), M (miss), H8,F20,F9,L9,H8@10,F20@9,L9@8 end.
    #Lane 11 spot on 10/9 foot on 25; lane 12 spot on 9/8 foot on 24

    The numbers 8 20 and 9 after the letter is where my ball ended up at the pin deck. I could hit flush, but the ball deflected, for example.
    The numbers after the @ symbol is the board where my ball crossed. It maybe the one I'm looking at or not lol.

    You can create or customize your way of taking data on pocket hits. I do this because I have ADD and I have short term memory. I remember where I stood on the last shot, but I don't remember what happened the last frame lol. this helps me.

    Game 1: H20@10, F20@9, M, L9@7, H8@11, .........and so on.



    Update/Note: since doing this, I'm posting shots more, I'm aware of what's happening on every shot, and remembering lol.

    My old lady just told me to do this format instead lol.

    board crossed, hit, and left, center, right at the pin deck = 10HL, 10FC, 12LR

    she's smart

    Years ago my notes includes what I was attempting to do, what I actually did, and the results.

    It took quite a while to get what I actually did, to get close to what I was attempting to do.

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    Any thought to just going out and bowling? I use PinPal, but just to keep track of my scores. I don't record every blow by blow, don't throw a bazillion games per week, and don't fret too much about this or that lane condition. I move and throw the damn ball. Through all of that, I manage to keep a 200+ average. I have weeks when I suck, and weeks when I don't, but I couldn't go back and tell you what I did to correct a thing during a previous week. I think sometimes people overthink this game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike White View Post
    Years ago my notes includes what I was attempting to do, what I actually did, and the results.

    It took quite a while to get what I actually did, to get close to what I was attempting to do.
    Above In the note section, I also note what area I'm targeting. Then when I go home, or the next day or two, I tally how many times I hit my target or miss it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timmyb View Post
    Any thought to just going out and bowling? I use PinPal, but just to keep track of my scores. I don't record every blow by blow, don't throw a bazillion games per week, and don't fret too much about this or that lane condition. I move and throw the damn ball. Through all of that, I manage to keep a 200+ average. I have weeks when I suck, and weeks when I don't, but I couldn't go back and tell you what I did to correct a thing during a previous week. I think sometimes people overthink this game.
    I agree, some of the best advice I've ever gotten about bowling turned out to be, quit thinking and just throw the darn ball.
    But as we can see with this thread sometimes people would prefer to analyze, over-analyze and repeat,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony View Post
    I agree, some of the best advice I've ever gotten about bowling turned out to be, quit thinking and just throw the darn ball.
    But as we can see with this thread sometimes people would prefer to analyze, over-analyze and repeat,
    I agree with you to an extent. Which is kind of why PinPal doesn't have stats beyond basics (strikes, spares, etc). No angle of entry, pocket or Brooklyn, etc.

    I like the stats just like how PinPal is set up. Anything beyond that and it does get to be a bit much. With how the app is now it literally takes a second to input frames.

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    Lol I knew ppl will perceive my note taking as over thinking, (mr. Ph.D. was right too) but it's actually the opposite. Its takes the thinking part out of it. It's an advice I took from someone who works with pro athletes. (Not bowlers - from cyclist to the NFL) I believe bowling's own mental coach dean Hintz has something similar in his program... Anyway

    It was a mental excersise that I turned into my post shot routine. Because there's a method and purpose to what I do, less thinking is involved. And it works too. All the analyzing goes into practices sessions not during leagues. If you played chess, my note taking is just that. But unlike chess players, I stop thinking between frames and when I'm on the approach. There's a tiny window for thinking.

    my goal is to Increase average in sport conditions from 5 years ago (198). And to "just bowl" is for the moment, it's not a bad thing for sure, but that's a different purpose on its own. But that thinking isn't going to help in reaching my goals. Bowling on a wall shot like we do doesn't show the true skill level of a bowler. It hides it.

    I'd put $50-$100 side action on sport patterns vs. $5-$20 on a house shot. "Just bowl" and "just bowl with a purpose" are two different things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony View Post
    I agree, some of the best advice I've ever gotten about bowling turned out to be, quit thinking and just throw the darn ball.
    But as we can see with this thread sometimes people would prefer to analyze, over-analyze and repeat,
    Bowling is easy if you are willing to accept what ever skill level you are at when you start bowling.

    You get what you get, and thats what you are.

    Once you try to be better than that, you can't just throw the darn ball.

    The issue I have with lane conditions is, it allows the "just throw the darn ball" crowd to reach honor score levels.

    That diminishes the value of having achieved an honor score on conditions where you couldn't "just throw the darn ball" and have a chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by classygranny View Post
    Great hi-jack to what could have been a good thread with different theories and opinions of stats. Way to go kids!
    I don't think that'll count as "contributing" per the ball giveaway rules. You might need to most one more time this week.

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