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    Quote Originally Posted by Aslan View Post
    Each season I strive for certain goals. Some are Pinpal related, some not so. Here was this season's (Pinpal stats in bold):

    Goals for 2015:

    1) Always throw a clean game and/or a 550+ series.
    2) Finish Fall/Winter in the top 20% of BOTH leagues in average.
    3) Increase my strike % from 37% to 55% or higher.
    4) Increase single-pin spare shooting % from 76% to 83% or higher.
    5) Bowl a 266 (or higher) sanctioned game.

    Now, each person has to look at their stats individually and decide whats holding them back.

    For me, I was always striking 12-37%. That makes for a long night of shooting spares and a lot of low scores...even when my spare shooting was good. So I needed to work on carry....figuring out why I'm not carrying pocket hits....accuracy to find the pocket and find it sooner, etc... And I also needed to keep pressure on myself to increase that single-pin spare shooting.

    Looking at you Pinpal stats...the only thing that looks "odd" is you have a rather low firstball average and a high strike %. That would indicate (to me) that you're a two-handed or thumbless bowler who strikes a lot but when you miss...you leave horrible multi-pin leaves. I may be wrong...but it's very odd to have a low first ball average and a 50%+ strike rate. Vdub strikes almost 2/3 of the time and has a first ball average of 9.3+.

    That being said, for a 2-handed/thumbless/palm bowler...your single-pin spare shooting is much better than most...so it's a ?????.

    The mudpuppy cliff note answer is actually quite clear. You strike enough, but your spare shooting needs work.
    Nope, I'm traditional thumb bowler. I have better control that way.

    My single pin accuracy is good if they ever got rid of the 10 pin . I've only missed one single non-10 pin.

    Splits are grouped in with multi pins. My splits are 2/22. Take that away and my multi pins rate goes up to 61% (I think)

    And to me 45% isn't a high strike %. Want it at least over 50%

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    Quote Originally Posted by fokai73 View Post
    I've been using PinPal for a long time and before that it was "warly" ?? On the palm pilot lol....

    Anyway, I took time off 3 years ago and seriously recorded my league stats the last two season when I returned. In the past I didn't have a gaol to achieve and I pretty much wasted my time taking down data. So this time around, I'm comparing my stats from last season to this season. I'm constantly looking at my old stats before leagues to motivate myself to bowl well. But, I hit a slump in the middle of the season and dropped percentages - I stopped looking at old data around the time of my slump. Here are my stats from two seasons ago, before the slump (1st half), to current (over the slump).

    Strike% from 9.08 to 9.20 currently 9.18
    Spares% from 64% to 70% currently 68%
    Single% from 81% to 89% currently 84%
    Multi% from 47% to 60% currently 59%
    Splits% from 6% to 17% currently 17%

    The 3 6 9 10 multi combos were my weakness, I could pick these combination leaves. Then I adjusted my spare position at the approach and play directly hitting the right side of the key pin (3). Now, Any leaves from 3 6 10 to baby splits to double wood, it's $$$! Spare game is still work in progress.

    The percentage doesn't seem so drastic, but I lost 11 sticks in my average after the first half and currently gained 3 sticks.
    [HUMOR ALERT] for those who are humor impaired.

    Please tell me you didn't really have a strike % as low as 9.08.
    Last edited by Mike White; 03-30-2016 at 09:24 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike White View Post
    [HUMOR ALERT] for those who are humor impaired.

    Please tell me you didn't really have a strike % as low as 9.08.
    HAHAHAHAHa wow good catch..... that's my low ball average lol...

    52% last year currently 58% on strikes

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    Quote Originally Posted by fokai73 View Post
    What this app doesn't do like others I've used, are.....

    1. Record if the strike is in the pocket or Brooklyn.
    2. Multi pin spare includes splits. If splits were not included, those % would be higher.
    3. Does not indicate starting point @ the approach.

    Though, I can take notes which is a plus. I write down what pair I bowled and compare the history of that pair. For example: hi/low scores, amount of corners, drier, reflection, mid racks, etc...

    Overall, this PinPal is a good app FWIW.
    Check out an App called Strike Out Stats. They give you multi pin spare percentage with and without splits. They have a game detail section where you can specify the house you are bowling in, which lane pair and which ball you used, oil condition and a small section for Notes. Then they allow you to filter stats by ball, pair of lanes and house. Here is a sample of some stats from when I pre-bowled for my league games tonight.

    League: Weds Night Mixed
    Bowling Date: 03-30-2016

    Score Ave: 214.33
    Total Pins (Series): 643
    High Game: 221
    Total Games: 3

    First Roll Average: 9.40
    Most Strikes in a Row: 5

    Strike Percentage: 61.8%
    Total Strikes: 21
    Strike Chances: 34

    Spare Percentage: 75.0%
    Total Spares: 9
    Spare Chances: 12

    Single Pin Spares %: 100.0%
    Single Pin Total: 8
    Single Pin Chances: 8

    Multi-Pin Spares %: 25.0%
    Multi-Pin Total: 1
    Multi-Pin Chances: 4

    Multi-Pin Non-Split %: 100.0%
    Multi Non-Split Total: 1
    Multi Non-Split Chances: 1

    Split Conversion %: 0.0%
    Splits Picked Up: 0
    Splits Attempted: 3

    Open Frame %: 10.0%
    Open Frames: 3
    Total Frames: 30

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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonNJ View Post
    Check out an App called Strike Out Stats. They give you multi pin spare percentage with and without splits. They have a game detail section where you can specify the house you are bowling in, which lane pair and which ball you used, oil condition and a small section for Notes. Then they allow you to filter stats by ball, pair of lanes and house. Here is a sample of some stats from when I pre-bowled for my league games tonight.

    League: Weds Night Mixed
    Bowling Date: 03-30-2016

    Score Ave: 214.33
    Total Pins (Series): 643
    High Game: 221
    Total Games: 3

    First Roll Average: 9.40
    Most Strikes in a Row: 5

    Strike Percentage: 61.8%
    Total Strikes: 21
    Strike Chances: 34

    Spare Percentage: 75.0%
    Total Spares: 9
    Spare Chances: 12

    Single Pin Spares %: 100.0%
    Single Pin Total: 8
    Single Pin Chances: 8

    Multi-Pin Spares %: 25.0%
    Multi-Pin Total: 1
    Multi-Pin Chances: 4

    Multi-Pin Non-Split %: 100.0%
    Multi Non-Split Total: 1
    Multi Non-Split Chances: 1

    Split Conversion %: 0.0%
    Splits Picked Up: 0
    Splits Attempted: 3

    Open Frame %: 10.0%
    Open Frames: 3
    Total Frames: 30

    pinpal has a lot of features no doubt, everything you just mentioned. but I wish it had a multi pin stats for non split leaves like the app you are using. Then it will be perfect. One thing I like about pinpal is that we users can share our stats on social media or text/email message with scores and/or score sheet. I'm pretty sure the Strike out Stats does the same thing, but not sure it's on the Apple app store.

    I couldn't find the app you mentioned on the apple app store.

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    The biggest benefit for me has been the ability to track which pins/leaves are giving me the most trouble. For example this season I'm 85% on 10 pins, but only 69% on 6-10 pins. Strike % and first ball average were another focus this season - as well as tracking the number of splits vs. last year.

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    Is the pin pal lite app any good, or is the full version worth it? I've been curious about using it for a while and I may decide to try it out, it'd be nice to track my stats and get a better look at all of my percentages and such. Just curious as to the big differences between the full and lite versions. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotesOfC View Post
    Is the pin pal lite app any good, or is the full version worth it? I've been curious about using it for a while and I may decide to try it out, it'd be nice to track my stats and get a better look at all of my percentages and such. Just curious as to the big differences between the full and lite versions. Thanks!
    I have the full version. The only gripe I have with it is it is a pain in the *** to correct a score if you forget to enter it, or enter it incorrectly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NotesOfC View Post
    Is the pin pal lite app any good, or is the full version worth it? I've been curious about using it for a while and I may decide to try it out, it'd be nice to track my stats and get a better look at all of my percentages and such. Just curious as to the big differences between the full and lite versions. Thanks!
    Pin Pal Lite is crippleware you can only do 4 nights of league, 4 days of open bowling and one tournament, so 27 games then you have to delete them.

    A free one that's pretty good is "Best Bowling Free" I use it (for iOS devices)

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowl1820 View Post
    Pin Pal Lite is crippleware you can only do 4 nights of league, 4 days of open bowling and one tournament, so 27 games then you have to delete them.

    A free one that's pretty good is "Best Bowling Free" I use it (for iOS devices)
    Thanks for the suggestion! I'll definitely try it out, it will be fun to use regardless. $8 isn't too much money and I think an app like pinpal would really help my game. So I'm definitely going to get it before next week and start using it.

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