What I Don't Understand about the USBC

[Mike White]

OMG, we agree! LOL

Now can you extrapolate from that, why I use urethane?

[fordman1]

If there is oil from 10 and in, and dry outside of 10, how often do you get close to the 5 board?

With resin balls, that answer should be never.

Therefore, if they oil out to 5, your ball should never get close to 0.

If you're going more than 5 boards outside of the oil, you haven't learned how to be even remotely accurate.

That wasn't the question. Oiling out to 5 rather than to 10 would give a bowler who swings the ball much less area to play with. It amazes me how many 180 or less bowlers get on here and talk about bowling and hitting one board. If you can be as accurate as they all seem to be you should be averaging 225+ on the house shot. It also seems strange that bowlers are averaging close to the house average on sports shots. That is not a real sport shot is you do that. We have a sports league every summer and no one has ever averaged 200.
Also no one who throws a 12 lb. ball should be talking about the difference between sport and house shots.
As to the averaging their weight + age I don't think I could have ever did that in my life. When I got out of the army in 1967 I weighed 185 and was 21 years old. Today I would have to average 340. 270 +70 maybe we need that new scoring system. I use a 15 lb. ball and have often thought about going to 16.

[Amyers]

That wasn't the question. Oiling out to 5 rather than to 10 would give a bowler who swings the ball much less area to play with. It amazes me how many 180 or less bowlers get on here and talk about bowling and hitting one board. If you can be as accurate as they all seem to be you should be averaging 225+ on the house shot.

People tend to overestimate their accuracy a lot and it's not just on here. A lot of people tend to think if any part of their ball passes over the intended target board they hit their target. It's also true that having 1-1.5 board accuracy at the arrows really isn't that difficult having 1-1.5 board accuracy at 45 ft. at the breakpoint is a whole different ball game and vastly more important. Something else to consider is true of even some decent bowlers I've seen they may have decent accuracy but you can hit 11 all day but if the shots at 7 it really doesn't matter how accurate you are.

It also seems strange that bowlers are averaging close to the house average on sports shots. That is not a real sport shot is you do that. We have a sports league every summer and no one has ever averaged 200

Not all sport shots are super difficult and some are down right diabolical in my book. I tend to bowl better on longer patterns which are a feature of most of the sport shots put down here so yes I'm one of those guys that average close to my house shot average on sport or challenge conditions. I don't know about your league house in Dearborn but I've seen lots of posts from tournaments on sport shots in Michigan and not to many finishes in the top 10 sub 200 from what I've seen.

Also no one who throws a 12 lb. ball should be talking about the difference between sport and house shots.

What weight ball you throw has no baring whatsoever on what kind of patterns you bowl on. Also taking continued pot shots at a member is frowned upon on this site unless is Mwhite, Aslan, or Rob and even that gets out of hand sometimes but can be funny.

[1VegasBowler]

That wasn't the question. Oiling out to 5 rather than to 10 would give a bowler who swings the ball much less area to play with. It amazes me how many 180 or less bowlers get on here and talk about bowling and hitting one board. If you can be as accurate as they all seem to be you should be averaging 225+ on the house shot. It also seems strange that bowlers are averaging close to the house average on sports shots. That is not a real sport shot is you do that. We have a sports league every summer and no one has ever averaged 200.
Also no one who throws a 12 lb. ball should be talking about the difference between sport and house shots.
As to the averaging their weight + age I don't think I could have ever did that in my life. When I got out of the army in 1967 I weighed 185 and was 21 years old. Today I would have to average 340. 270 +70 maybe we need that new scoring system. I use a 15 lb. ball and have often thought about going to 16.

Here's Mr. Judge & Jury talking about somebody (me) throwing a 12# ball when you are clueless as to why. But, because you throw either a 14#, 15# or even a 16# ball, it must make you the most qualified expert there is out here. Again, you must certainly be a legend in your own mind despite the fact that the USBC and the PBA have not placed you in their Hall of Fames.

OMG! That's my bad! You're not even a member of the PBA! I guess you are one of those that couldn't or can't cut the mustard to be a PBA member! Then again, since you haven't been a 200+ bowler since 2012-2013, you can't even qualify for PBA membership. And since I see you haven't been in a Sport league since 2013-14 that never entered your scores it makes me think that maybe you are the one who is clueless about Sport shots.

Unlike you, I have no illusions or delusions about my bowling. I have not bowled long enough and not good enough to even be considered for the USBC HOF, and nor am I good enough to even be a member of the PBA.

And as I do bowl on both House and Sport shots, I can certainly talk about the differences because they are obvious, whereas you are so darn good at both you just breeze through all of them. It's such a mystery as to why you aren't a HOF'er!

[bowl1820]

People tend to overestimate their accuracy a lot and it's not just on here.

You got that right!

Back When I first got on ballreviews.com, It was amazing all the 200+ ave. bowler's that said they were splitting boards and moving their mark a 1/4" at the arrows or 40 + ft.down the lane. Then you ask them to post a C.A.T.S. sheet to prove it, then it's ...........................


That and all the ones that were so consistent, they could control their speed to a 1/16 or 1/4 mph and made adjustments by moving their feet a 1/8th of inch.