If you're inside the ball in the backswing, meaning hand is more between your body and the ball then the ideal release is behind the ball. The wrist breaking too early can be an issue. My big question is this: were your balls drilled off your PAP (positive axis point)? Some shops will use a generic layout not taking the PAP into consideration. For example if your PAP is 5"> and 1"^ then the generic layout will move the track 1" closer to the hole because the old sheet generic layouts were based off a PAP of 4">
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When you state outside wrist rotation in the backswing which way are you facing the wrist? Semantics may be our issue as here and above you said how he is probably turning his thumb in (which is towards the body) yet above advocated turing the wrist in. Which to me says get the ball between the body and wrist. Of course I'm using the palm side of the wrist and maybe you're referring to the back side of the wrist?Originally Posted by Wherearemyballs
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When I said don't go crazy. I meant not to turn the inside of the wrist to the outside on the backswing. I meant to keep the wrist facing forward.
I have tried about every wrist rotation and position at one time or another. And over time have decided to play in the middle of my range of motion , with a pinky tuck to help revs. And a broken wrist spare shot.
I have seen others turn to the inside and still produce a semi roller. Their personal ability to lift and flip the ball was stronger than mine ever was.
When I had my ball drilled , I saw the steps taken today are much more detailed than anything I ever had drilled before. I know what I meant to advise, and could have used better wording.
The strangest release I ever saw was an older man who cranked his hand around the front of the ball ,Flipping it for a slow spinning motion that knocked pins low and flat to tumble the others down. I wish I had a video.
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My Spare ball I get the track over the thumb, I can sometimes hear it go thump thump. My strike balls, I never have that, it is really close, about 1/2 inch from the thumb hole and 1/2" finger holes is as close as it gets...
Wouldn't worry so much about a spare ball. I hear spare balls go over the thumb fairly often just based on people flattening out their wrist and going straight
Plus I've yet to see a spare ball drilled to the bowler's PAP. It's one reason they are usually cheaper to drill.
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It's either mine or my doubles partner spare ball has the CG marking on top of the pin so no chance at any real drilling really lol it's just in her COG
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I don't really understand the question.
If you are tracking over your thumb, you are releasing the ball incorrectly. You are either throwing a straight ball end over end...or you're trying to gain backend movement by increasing you axis rotation in a 90-degree tilt.
So before answering any question like this...you have to understand the bowler. Is it a he/she (I'm gonna assume "he")? Is he in good health? Do all of his joints work properly? There may be a physical constraint...or an age consideration that is keeping him from delivering/releasing the ball properly.
If he's in good health...why is the release 'off'...fix the problem...no more track over the thumb hole.
I sometimes will track over the thumb/finger holes on a spare shot...if my release is messed up. And I often track over the thumb-hole on a back-up ball shot...but that makes sense...I'm essentially throwing a half *** left-handed shot with a ball drilled for and delivered by a right-hander.
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First of all, thanks for the replies!
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Do all of them track over the thumb or just that one? If just that one of look into the layout and consider that when having the next ball drilled.
No, only the first and second rings go over the thumb.
I know this post was from a couple of weeks ago so it may been resolved, however it appears that Stormbowler13 is asking " Does it track over the thumb on all of your balls or on just the one ball"
Probably a pretty good question to answer, with the resulting conclusions being if it happens on only one ball and it's a strike ball, then it's probably the drilling that should be checked and compared with other balls, or if the one ball is a spare ball, then this is fairly common and nothing needs to be done, many people do this.
On the other hand if it happens with several strike balls, then those issues are addressed with most of the answers and suggestions, there are some people that track close or over the thumb with certain drill patterns, the best course would probably be correction of any form causing the problem and/or not using a drilling pattern that causes that to happen.
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