Sandbaggers........

[fokai73]

For those who basically cheat in bowling - sandbaggers, are their actions on the lanes a reflection of who they are as a person outside of bowling?

[RobLV1]

There are really two issues here. First, yes, people who would cheat in bowling would cheat at most anything else they do. They are not the kind of people to choose as friends. Secondly, sandbagging is really pretty rare, and pretty obvious when it happens. For everyone that has ever been called a sandbagger, maybe one in fifty really is. Calling someone a sandbagger is simply a knee-jerk reaction for someone who does not understand that handicaps ALWAYS favor the high average bowler over the bowler with the handicap.

[vdubtx]

Don't know how you can put a number to how many actual sandbaggers are sandbaggers. They are actually pretty easy to spot if you watch them.

...and I would say yes. Anyone that sandbags intentionally has low moral standards in their life away from bowling.

[LOUVIT]

I am concerned with this. i bowl on a afternoon league and have no average coming in. I consider myself about 165 to 170 average as of right now. After my first 2 weeks in the league I am averaging 140. If I break out the 3rd or 4th week and shoot a high 500 or possibly a 600 I worry about what they will say. I only started bowling again 5 months ago after 25 years and am still learning the new game and equipment. only some of the people know me from the summer practice league and I shot a few 200 games and usually 170's or close.

[JaxBowlingGuy]

That's a little different... I'm sure people know you're "new"

We have a guy on my wed league that booked 219 last year. He shot 480 first night and like 540 this past week.

[RobLV1]

That's a little different... I'm sure people know you're "new"

We have a guy on my wed league that booked 219 last year. He shot 480 first night and like 540 this past week.

Did he take the summer off? For every bowler like this, there are five who get all excited because they average 220 for the first two weeks in a handicap league until they realize that they've done themselves in for the year.

[JaxBowlingGuy]

Did he take the summer off? For every bowler like this, there are five who get all excited because they average 220 for the first two weeks in a handicap league until they realize that they've done themselves in for the year.

He does the same I do for the summer. Take off of leagues and travel for tournaments. he was at a few of the sport tournaments out of town over the summer when I was there.

[LOUVIT]

That's a little different... I'm sure people know you're "new"

We have a guy on my wed league that booked 219 last year. He shot 480 first night and like 540 this past week.

he had an average going in I guess, I came in with no average or card...I am starting with my first 9 games ..I think...The longer I'm in this slump the harder it will be to establish a decent average, I am 61 years old i don't want a 140 average on the books. 25 years ago I averaged 190 in league and better in action...lol..yea I know...."a has been..lol"

[billf]

I know a few who claim to sandbag. Problem is they aren't good enough for it to be an advantage except one guy. He isn't bagging either though. Evey bad night he says he is to keep his average down for State. I had fun when he shot 409 at Nationals two years ago. Beat him at State the last three seasons and I suck. Even his wife is a better bowler than him but when you talk to him, he is the best in the area.

[mc_runner]

That's a little different... I'm sure people know you're "new"

We have a guy on my wed league that booked 219 last year. He shot 480 first night and like 540 this past week.

On my thursday league, I came in with a 208 from last year and shot 570-513 the first 2 weeks. No sandbagging, just bad matching to conditions on my part (and I bowled the summer, too!). It's also really annoying if someone accuses you of bagging when in reality you're just having a bad night and are frustrated from that to begin with. Sometimes it just happens, sometimes people have a little more up their sleeve. Also, what Rob was saying has been true for me in so many leagues it's not even funny. Kind of strange to have my foot in the other shoe this time around.