If your 5 pin is passing in front of the 8 pin, you've thrown a weak shot.
A stone 8 pin has the 5 pin go between the 8 and 9 pins, but that only happens on those rare shots where the head pin moves the 5 pin to the right before the ball hits the 5 pin.
Here is one of many examples of "stone" 8 pins on Youtube.
In the end it doesn't really matter lol
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I think everyone is right on this one.
Yes, "ideally"...it's 4 pins...because ideally speaking...with all pins in their proper positions...the 5-pin will almost always take out the 8-pin so the ball never touches it.
Yet, Bowl1820 is also correct...that if you're striking and your ball is running directly over the 9-pin...your ball is not hitting optimally and you'll likely start leaving flat 10s in upcoming frames. A ball (for a righty) that exits too far right,,,is a sign you should make a slight (0.5 board eyes/0.5 board feet) move right to get a slightly better angle...
OR...it's time to ball down to a ball that hooks a little later...because you're likely seeing weak hits due to transition.
The problem with all of the stuff listed above...is you need to be very consistent and have an almost flawless physical game and release...and the concentration to watch the ball as it travels through the pins...otherwise it's all theoretical.
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Which is pretty much what is showed in the video "Bowling Instruction - Ball up or Ball down, when and why." that was posted by JasonNJ here:
http://www.bowlingboards.com/threads...ng-up-and-down
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Right handed Stroker, high track ,about 13 degree axis tilt. PAP is located 5 9/16” over 1 3/4” up.Speed ave. about 14 mph at the pins. Medium rev’s.High Game 300, High series 798
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It could have been counted when an 11 in a row was submitted but since those are no longer acknowledged how would anyone even know?
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