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    Quote Originally Posted by drlawsoniii View Post
    I'm 33 and i can calculate it pretty easily, it's not difficult.
    Especially if we're talking what your score will be if you strike out, 30 pins per frame plus whatever you're working off of. Though, I've always enjoyed math and numbers for some reason, so things like keeping a bowling score were never a difficult concept for me. Some people can't even add their three scores together to figure out their series. Everyone always asks me for some reason if we can still mathematically win a game when we're in the ninth or tenth frame. Regardless of the situation I always say "we'll win if you punch out."

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    It is amusing watching people using their phone calculator to add up the recap sheet. I swear I saw someone adding
    200+210+190 ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmet225 View Post
    "Reply with quote" "does not work for me on here for some reason.

    Are referring to younger bowlers not knowing how to calculate their max score throughout the course of a game? I'm beyond the mid-century line, and grew up keeping score by hand. There's a woman on my team (mid 20's) who has no idea what I'm talking about when I ask her what her max score would be.
    Yea it's kind of sad how people can't do simple math on things like this. Plenty of times going into the tenth frame being up my x amount I'll look at the marks the other team has and tally up and tell my team we need 75 pins to lock them out and half the time they have no idea how or why I know that....

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrono00 View Post
    Yea it's kind of sad how people can't do simple math on things like this. Plenty of times going into the tenth frame being up my x amount I'll look at the marks the other team has and tally up and tell my team we need 75 pins to lock them out and half the time they have no idea how or why I know that....
    For some they simply have a phobia when it comes to math.

    For others, they've never been required to know the rules of how bowling is scored.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike White View Post
    For some they simply have a phobia when it comes to math.

    For others, they've never been required to know the rules of how bowling is scored.

    Imagine what a novelty that was for people back then. Now a days I'm pretty sure half the people in my leagues wouldn't have a clue what to do if the auto scoring system crashed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrono00 View Post
    Imagine what a novelty that was for people back then. Now a days I'm pretty sure half the people in my leagues wouldn't have a clue what to do if the auto scoring system crashed.
    For those of us who kept score... it shipped our jobs "overseas"

    In my case, I quit keeping score before they came to town.

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    Standard statistical rules:
    * 67% of all results will be within one standard deviation (98% within two standard deviations)
    * That is ~17% cut off of the high and low ends

    Most statistical process control systems use 1 standard deviation to indicate where normal lower boundaries should be set. If you are outside the boundaries once an adjustment should be made. If twice in a row then something is terribly wrong.

    you may comment that this requires a normal distribution. Bowling scores are actually log-normal but if you look at the distributions the normal curve effectively describes the distribution. By putting the boundaries based on rank order of scores this works for log normal and other similarly skewed distributions.

    The point is that by knowing where you normally score you set a realistic floor to be upset about and a realistic threshold for a great game to be happy with. At the 17% boundaries, for me that is a low game of <151 and a high game >192. Without that knowledge I tend to fixate on the few games >210 and think that I should be doing that all the time. And i hope to improve so that is the case. but right now I should be happy with a 195 as that is better than normal. I also shouldn't be too bummed out about rolling a 168. while it is more than 10 pins below average for me, it is normal. I track and adjust my limits as the season goes on. That way changes (whether to my bowling or the scoring environment) keep me properly assessing my results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrono00 View Post
    Imagine what a novelty that was for people back then. Now a days I'm pretty sure half the people in my leagues wouldn't have a clue what to do if the auto scoring system crashed.
    Actually happened at one of my houses last season and the decided to close instead of just using paper
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    Quote Originally Posted by JJKinGA View Post
    Standard statistical rules:
    * 67% of all results will be within one standard deviation (98% within two standard deviations)
    Isn't that the Empirical Rule (aka: The 68–95–99.7 rule) your referring too?

    Which is where:
    68.27% of the values lie within one standard deviations of the mean.
    95.45% of the values lie within two standard deviations of the mean.
    99.73% of the values lie within three standard deviations of the mean.
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    That is how you measure consistency. But you win pots with outliers. Spelling is my outlier. Most 300 games would not happen without them.

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