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Thread: Does anyone else think the underhanded football drill is the wrong simulation

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    Default Does anyone else think the underhanded football drill is the wrong simulation

    To me an underhanded football drill forces your hand to rotate too much. It isn't the correct simulation of rolling a bowling ball. If you do the simulation at home you'll notice your hand over rotate and thumb past vertical. That would make for a very extreme and unpredictable back end hook.

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    I personally do not think you can simulate hand motion unless you have weight in your hand ..yea a bowling ball
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    I do. I was overseas about 10 years ago when I saw a local coach teaching his students about the release. He was using a softball and not a football. It made me think about the release for some time, and then I started using a softball/baseball a year later.

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    Here are the football and softball drill.


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    I agree. The football drill was great when you had to make the ball hook. Now, not so much!

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    At a kids party 2 years ago, I came across a what became a tool for a while. It was a plastic ball with holes. It was used in the swimming pool. The holes and colors
    let you see what was happening when tossed differently. No weight, but showed what effect hand position has.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowl1820 View Post
    Here are the football and softball drill.


    thanks for posting....

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    Works for me
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    I definitely think this is the wrong 'simulation' because it keeps your hand on the side of the ball from start to finish, though this video does help explain how to stay behind it. I did use this to help one of my friends understand the 'concept' of throwing a hook. He had never owned his own ball or bowled in a league but was very effective throwing the ball straight. He couldn't figure out how to hook a ball so I tried to help. The shake hands method didn't work, then I remembered this method from my days as a junior bowler and told him to try it out. It's not perfect, but it helped him understand how his hand needed to finish.
    Last edited by zacks; 10-27-2016 at 12:37 PM.

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    I absolutely deplore the football drill. Even using a yo-yo underhand is more effective. I bought softballs on clearance and handed them out to all our youth bowlers then had the high school team demonstrate how to do it at each table.

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