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    Last night on a 4 man team between us and the other team we left 33 splits. 8 of them were pocket 7-10's. Ever have nights like that?

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    2 years ago in the final match play round of a tournament I bowled we had a similar type thing. We actually traded pocket 7-10 back and forth leaving a total of 8 of them over 2 games. We both actual threw an additional 2 splits also so finished the match with 10 splits over 2 games for 2 bowlers. I won 346-338 lol. Tried every ball I had nothing would hit.
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    Worst I have had recently was last weekend at a baker Trio tournament all 3 of us went back to back to back 2-8-10.

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    Last year in the PBA Doubles Competition, Josh Blanchard made a really good comment to his teammate, Adres Gomez. He said that with a perfect shot, you can strike with any ball in your hand, but when you have the wrong ball in your hand and make less than a perfect shot, you're likely to get a seven count. That seven count is often a split. The same can be said for playing the wrong line. If you insist on staying in the track area after it's gone, three 2-8-10's in a row is not really so unlikely.

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    Just a few weeks ago We were on the end pair of lanes and the thing to see was all the greek churches (the 4-6-7-9-10) that got left.

    We figured it up, between the two teams we left 15 greek churches, four of them mine. There was also some 4-6-7-9's where the 10 pin had just fall off. The lanes beside us had a few also I noticed, But I don't know how many.

    While bowling I've always watched what was happening on the lanes near us. One thing I've noticed (at least here) for along time was, the leaves we have. You'll see the same leaves showing up on the lanes near you more .

    Like if your leaving a lot of buckets (2-4-5-8), you'll see the players on the lanes beside you leaving a lot of buckets also.

    Or your Leaving a lot of 5-10's on your lanes, you'll see 5-10's show up next to you quite a bit also etc etc.
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    i had 3 opens last week two of them of them were blower pocket splits that caused me to lose some cash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobLV1 View Post
    Last year in the PBA Doubles Competition, Josh Blanchard made a really good comment to his teammate, Adres Gomez. He said that with a perfect shot, you can strike with any ball in your hand, but when you have the wrong ball in your hand and make less than a perfect shot, you're likely to get a seven count. That seven count is often a split. The same can be said for playing the wrong line. If you insist on staying in the track area after it's gone, three 2-8-10's in a row is not really so unlikely.
    We all played different parts of the lane and it was 3 different bowlers.
    I was inside, one was playing a more typical track area and the 3rd was outside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaxBowlingGuy View Post
    We all played different parts of the lane and it was 3 different bowlers.
    I was inside, one was playing a more typical track area and the 3rd was outside.
    Okay, so here's the question: if it's not the wrong bowling ball, and it's not the wrong line, then what is it? If it's the topography of the lane, then any ball that gets to the bad area down the lane whether from outside, in the track, or inside will get the bad reaction. That's still the wrong line, even if it doesn't show up until the break point. The only other consideration would be a bad rack and, hopefully, at least one of you noticed it and it would have been included in the comments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobLV1 View Post
    Okay, so here's the question: if it's not the wrong bowling ball, and it's not the wrong line, then what is it? If it's the topography of the lane, then any ball that gets to the bad area down the lane whether from outside, in the track, or inside will get the bad reaction. That's still the wrong line, even if it doesn't show up until the break point. The only other consideration would be a bad rack and, hopefully, at least one of you noticed it and it would have been included in the comments.
    Maybe one guy threw the shot a little fast, the next guy missed it at the bottom just a little, and YES the 3rd may have encountered early friction that led to down lane energy loss. There are other reasons why balls flat 10, 2/10, etc other than early friction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JaxBowlingGuy View Post
    Worst I have had recently was last weekend at a baker Trio tournament all 3 of us went back to back to back 2-8-10.
    Quote Originally Posted by JaxBowlingGuy View Post
    We all played different parts of the lane and it was 3 different bowlers.
    I was inside, one was playing a more typical track area and the 3rd was outside.
    Quote Originally Posted by RobLV1 View Post
    Okay, so here's the question: if it's not the wrong bowling ball, and it's not the wrong line, then what is it? If it's the topography of the lane, then any ball that gets to the bad area down the lane whether from outside, in the track, or inside will get the bad reaction. That's still the wrong line, even if it doesn't show up until the break point. The only other consideration would be a bad rack and, hopefully, at least one of you noticed it and it would have been included in the comments.
    I don't believe a definitive conclusion on cause can be drawn, Given the information provided.

    You had three bowlers, playing three different lines , using (I assume) three different balls. I'm guessing since it was a baker format and it happened back to back frames. They switched lanes each frame, Which would mean 2 of the splits were on one lane and one on the other.

    For a it to be a topography problem, the three bowler's would probably have to had to been playing a common area. Say the exit point or break point and given if it happened on a pair of lanes, the lanes would both have to had a similar problem in the same area.

    Since this apparently only happened once for each bowler and there is no mention of any other on going issue during the match, I'd say it wasn't a topography issue.

    As for wrong ball and or wrong line, Yes at any given moment that could true for that given shot. But again as there is no mention of any other on going issue during the match, We really can't say if these were a factor.

    It seems (without further information) in this case to be more of just a coincidental happening, any conclusion drawn just from just this one instance would be speculation..

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